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Richard Mason 11-05-2024 09:59 AM

Some advice
 
I have brand new 2 3/4 Cheddix hulls , Cheddix primers , Hodgdons international Powder , and I have a pound of Longshot powder

Hulls , I have claybuster CB 2100-12 , which replaces the 12S0 wad , perfect for 1 ounce load

I also have hulls in BP competition special short , CS12S

I have a good manual that I’ve been brainstorming over , can’t seem to get all it together, I want a 1 ounce load and I have #6 shot in nickle plated lead

I’d like to keep the pressure down to what would be considered safe or easy on my old Parker , 1923 , it’s a solid gun

Any suggestions on the hull to use and the powder to use for a amount ,

Thanks ,

Bill Murphy 11-05-2024 04:29 PM

It would be hard to harm a 1923 Parker with any load of one ounce that you find in the loading manual. Stay at or below 1200 fps.

Richard Mason 11-05-2024 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 419213)
It would be hard to harm a 1923 Parker with any load of one ounce that you find in the loading manual. Stay at or below 1200 fps.

Thanks
I have a load that is 8000 PSI , and it’s close to 1300 FPS
1 1/4 of nickle plated in # 6 ,

I just finished up 12 rounds and was going to test them on some birds

In your opinion , is that 1300 fps a little to fast

Daryl Corona 11-05-2024 07:05 PM

In my opinion yes, no need for speed. 1200 is sufficient.

edgarspencer 11-05-2024 07:27 PM

What are you planning to hunt where you need 1 1/4oz loads?

Richard Mason 11-05-2024 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 419225)
What are you planning to hunt where you need 1 1/4oz loads?

Pheasant up in Alberta , only reason I went with 1 1/4 load was I had the wads and powder for that load in the book

I’d sooner use 1 ounce loads , I just need to get the correct wads , it’s tough to get the right stuff up here

Richard Mason 11-05-2024 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl Corona (Post 419222)
In my opinion yes, no need for speed. 1200 is sufficient.

Ok
I shoot them off in one of my semi’s on pheasants

I’ll just have to wait till I get some different wads

Dean Romig 11-05-2024 08:57 PM

If it were my choice I would not abuse a 1923 Parker, probably on the 1 1/2 frame, with those loads on a regular basis. Why beat it up. I know... in my day of pheasant shooting I might get to shoot my gun five or six times on an outing but some guys shooting wild pheasants today might shoot up to a box of shells in a morning's hunt.





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Richard Mason 11-05-2024 09:12 PM

[QUOTE=Dean Romig;419232]If it were my choice I would not abuse a 1923 Parker, probably on the 1 1/2 frame, with those loads on a regular basis. Why beat it up. I know... in my day of pheasant shooting I might get to shoot my gun five or six times on an outing but some guys shooting wild pheasants today might shoot up to a box of shells in a morning's hunt.





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If I’m lucky , it would be like 6 shells for a morning hunt , I’m going to shoot of the ones I loaded today in my beretta semi on pheasants
I got new wads coming in a day or two , then I’ll load up a bunch of 1 ounce loads and keep em around 8000psi and about 1200 fps

Dean Romig 11-05-2024 11:17 PM

Those are good numbers Richard!





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Mike Koneski 11-23-2024 12:53 PM

Richard, max I load for 12g is 1 oz for hunting or clays. As Daryl said, keep it to 1200 FPS or less. Most of my loading is in the 1150-1180 range. I've never lost a target or a bird because my shells were under 1200 FPS. Your stocks will thank you. If you don't have 1 oz wads, you can use filler wad under your shot to build up the column enough to achieve a good crimp.

Richard Mason 11-23-2024 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Koneski (Post 420124)
Richard, max I load for 12g is 1 oz for hunting or clays. As Daryl said, keep it to 1200 FPS or less. Most of my loading is in the 1150-1180 range. I've never lost a target or a bird because my shells were under 1200 FPS. Your stocks will thank you. If you don't have 1 oz wads, you can use filler wad under your shot to build up the column enough to achieve a good crimp.


Can I get your thoughts on useing lead , nickle plated lead , or copper
Is it worth paying the extra money for nickle plated
I’ve been using them , I got a friend who says I’m crazy to buy that when copper is everybit or better and way less money ,

I’ve up my shot also to a min of #6 and I’m my 20 gauge , it’s #4
These wild rooster are tough and get away from me fast ,

Mike Koneski 11-23-2024 01:30 PM

Richard, all I use for clays or upland is lead. I use ITX for waterfowl and TSS for turkey.

Bill Murphy 11-23-2024 04:05 PM

Most plated shot is very much the hardness of good lead.

Dean Romig 11-23-2024 06:26 PM

Most pheasants are relatively easy to drop with no. 6 shot on a crossing shot. Going away shots are a whole nother story. If you shoot them in the back going away you need to anchor them with a well placed load of no. 4.





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Mike Koneski 11-23-2024 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 420138)
Most plated shot is very much the hardness of good lead.

Agreed. :clap:

Richard Mason 11-24-2024 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 420138)
Most plated shot is very much the hardness of good lead.

What is the hype about useing nickle plated shot on pheasants ,
They say it just penetrates better and kills harder

My thoughts of not having a dog to hunt over , these wild rooster are getting up most times like 20 yards in front of me and then it’s a going away shot at 35 to 40 yards , I’m talking late fall or like now , they spooky ,

Bill Murphy 11-24-2024 09:58 AM

More choke, not plated shot.


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