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Gregory Miller 08-24-2009 07:06 PM

Vintagers Request
 
Might someone have an old Parker parts gun Action around which they might be willing to demonstrate how to dissassemble while a bunch of us are down at Vintagers. I have read articles on how to do so, but I would like to see a Parker dissassembled and would prefer not to practice on a pristine gun.

Is this something that would be of interest to others, or am I the only Parker owner who has not fully dissassembled a Parker action. :duck:

Every other gun I own I can tear down to the last screw and from that it allows me to appreciate how all of the parts actually work. I have seen pictures of a dissassembled Parker,but have never actually seen one dissassembled.

Robin Lewis 08-24-2009 07:46 PM

Boy, that's a great idea!

A seminar on Parker inner workings, disassembly and tools required would be great! I think the numbers watching may be big enough that the logistics would be a problem; a good camera and serious camera handling, accompanied by a large screen for viewing may be needed so everyone could see what was going on.

Dave Suponski 08-24-2009 09:00 PM

Yup,Great idea...but we need to be cautious here.

Dean Romig 08-24-2009 09:27 PM

When I was on the BOD of the New England Saltwater Fly Rodders we arranged for different speakers for each of the monthly meetings. Some were guides of note, some were authors of 'in demand' books of various aspects and destinations of fly fishing and probably the speakers who received the most interest were the fly tiers of national and local fame - each of whom had "invented" and developed their own very effective fly patterns. It was always a mob scene around the fly tying table with a good number of members never being able to see of hear what was going on at the table. Then we got a camera and a really BIG TV to show the whole process on along with a clip-on mike for the speaker. What a huge improvement that made.

Great suggestion Robin to augment a great idea from Greg.

Dean Romig 08-24-2009 09:33 PM

"Tools required" may be the most important thing to learn from such a presentation. Anyone who attacks a Parker, be it a Trojan or an A1S, with the wrong 'screwdrivers' deserves the buggered screws and marred surfaces he will undoubtedly get . . . but sorrowfully, the Parker he abuses will not have "deserved" such disrespect and damage.

Austin W Hogan 08-24-2009 11:05 PM

Parker Breakdown
 
I wuld be glad to bring along a lifter and show how to break it down, and show how to repair a lock as well. But I would not attempt to go beyond stock removal on a hammerless.

Best, Austin

David Yeatts 08-24-2009 11:40 PM

Austin
I would love to see a lifter taken down as I will need to take my D-2 down after spending Sat. shooting black powder. I know the locks will need to be removed and cleaned. The firing pins have been cleaned and replaced but I've not had the guts the take on locks.
Thanks, Dave

Richard Flanders 08-25-2009 12:29 AM

Too bad I can't be there! I'd be happy to reduce a Parker to a pile of parts for folks. With the correct tools, it's not difficult.... I have not yet attacked an ejector forend however...

Trigg Davis 08-25-2009 02:40 AM

Rich,
Great to see you are in contact. Season is open fresh grouse for dinner tonight. Delicious wish you could be here. Looking forward to our tri. Tried a PM that got lost in cyberspace so I am posting here even if off topic.

As a matter of general interst for those South of Alaska it has been warm here; I water skiied yestrday, but the Common Loons seem to be flying more as they always do as fall approaches, a few Canadian Geese seemed to have moved down to Anchorage, saw some sand hill cranes moving about. Young waterfall on the ski lake have grown a great deal; all signs of things to come. I hope that help wet some appetites.

Trigg

Dean Romig 08-25-2009 05:49 AM

Hey Trigg, you're not water skiing on that float plane pond in Anchorage are ya? Could be a dangerous place to ski :eek:

Dave Miles 08-25-2009 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 3172)
"Tools required" may be the most important thing to learn from such a presentation. Anyone who attacks a Parker, be it a Trojan or an A1S, with the wrong 'screwdrivers' deserves the buggered screws and marred surfaces he will undoubtedly get . . . but sorrowfully, the Parker he abuses will not have "deserved" such disrespect and damage.

Even with the "proper size screwdrivers" I wouldn't tear down a high condition gun. All it takes is one slip of the driver, and you got a buggered screw. :cuss:
Personally, I just don't have the patience for that kind of work. I could watch an all day seminar on the process, and still wouldn't attempt to do it. :nono:

Dean Romig 08-25-2009 08:55 AM

I agree Dave. Some things are better left to the experts, especially the nice ones. It just doesn't make any sense to practice on anything but a clunker or wall-hanger.

Mark Conrad 08-25-2009 09:29 AM

The perfect person for this would be Doug Turnbull. He should be there. We could do it at our tent at a specific time.

Darryl Middlebook would be a good person to talk to Doug about this.

How about Darryl?

Mark

Jim Williams 08-25-2009 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 3183)
Hey Trigg, you're not water skiing on that float plane pond in Anchorage are ya? Could be a dangerous place to ski :eek:

I thought they water-skiied behind floatplanes in AK...

Jim

George Blair 08-25-2009 10:52 AM

Why not make a DVD! Austin could do a hammer gun, someone else do a hammerless. Then the PGCA could sell them for a small profit. I agree with Dave, I'm not going to work on any high grade guns (cause I don't own any) but it would be nice to clean one of my beaters if I get caught out in the rain, or simply know how the guts of a Parker works. Thanks, George

Dean Romig 08-25-2009 10:59 AM

A DVD is a fabulous idea . . .

Hey Robin :duck:

Dave Suponski 08-25-2009 11:45 AM

I learned the inner working of a hammerless gun on a PH 2 frame that I got from a member.I was quite an interesting experience disassembling and reassembling that frame. I learned quite a bit. But alas it slowly got parted out to guy's in need and now it's all gone. But at least I know that the parts went to good homes.

Dean Romig 08-25-2009 11:58 AM

But that's just the point Dave, you parted it out because you didn't know how to put it back together, right? :duck:

Dave Suponski 08-25-2009 12:56 PM

Dean....Read the WHOLE post.It said disassemble and reassemble. Smartaxx:nono:

Trigg Davis 08-25-2009 01:04 PM

Dean,

No I so not ski on Lake Hood the local float plane lake--I suspect that might get me a meeting with the boys in blue.

Jim,

I have seen people ski behind an amphibious plane herein Alaska.

Trigg

Dean Romig 08-25-2009 01:32 PM

oh . . .

. . . my bad :p

Jim Williams 08-25-2009 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trigg Davis (Post 3206)
Dean,

No I so not ski on Lake Hood the local float plane lake--I suspect that might get me a meeting with the boys in blue.

Jim,

I have seen people ski behind an amphibious plane herein Alaska.

Trigg

Of that, I have no doubt! I will admit I have done some things with an airplane that, in retrospect, probably weren't the safest. Having said that, I have witnessed some idiotic things done with an airplane that I would never dream of doing, or fathom why. This leads me to the conclusion that if it can be dreamed up, someone somewhere has probably tried it, +/- living to tell about it.

Jim

Dean Romig 08-25-2009 04:31 PM

As I recall Lake Hood is pretty small, would you say less than 50 acres Trigg?

Gregory Miller 08-25-2009 04:45 PM

Tear Down
 
If Doug or his Dad were willing, that would be wonderful. I have no desire to destroy a piece of history, but I find that I appreciate things more when I understand how they work.

As to Big Screen TV, maybe the better approach would be at the dinner to bring a small projector and just put it up on the wall. If someone has a camera with an output, I have a small projector. Burning to a DVD is no big deal. Editing it for sale, I will leave to others with more talent. I might be able to call in a favor with All Set Productions in NYC if we wanted to do this right.

I have met Doug and I spoke to his dad last year at the Greenwich show. If we could make this happen, I would be very much appreciative. Reading it in a book is just not getting it done for me. I need to see it.

Richard Flanders 08-25-2009 08:00 PM

I have done some things with my airplane that are far too embarrassing to admit to and talk about in aviation educated company. Lake Hood is not large, but I couldn't tell you the acreage.

Trigg: I ALMOST caught a spruce grouse on the four wheeler today. I was right on his tail for about 100yds going 30mph down the mine road and came within 2' or so of being able to make a grab at him when he flared. Damn! That would have been a first with me. I chased one down the Minto cutoff road with my '69 Bronco once and clipped him with the right headlight and had fresh bird for dinner in duck camp that night but have never caught one by hand. Today was really close... Maybe tomorrow; I know where he lives now...

Gary Carmichael Sr 08-25-2009 08:41 PM

Greg thats a great idea standing room only I bet Gary


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