Boss Ammunition.....
 

I know a lot of folks on here are fans of Boss Ammunition and I was too until I read this.

Anybody supporting a complete lead shot ban is supporting the death of using vintage guns for clay target shooting.

If you feel the same way I do, call or email and let Boss know.

I saw that also and have held off buying their products for sub gauge guns.They quote losses of crippled birds etc. and they quote birds saved by not shooting lead.I just decided to not buy their products and either purchase someone else's but I'm also going to reload my own.

I will add Boss Shotshells to my personal boycott list. (It's a long list.)

-Victor

This strikes me as totally self serving by Boss.

Looks their marketing team attended the Bud Light academy of business. They turn on the customers who can afford and like their products. Deeply stupid.

As John Allen detailed, this is likely not very well thought out by Boss (or just self-serving). Either way, it feels like Google review might be an avenue to convey a message quickly and publicly. My call did little to inspire the listener.

They cater to young crowd who have never know a world where ducks could be hunted with lead. This young crowd actually buys into the total lead ban. It’s stroking the 40 year olds and down. They have a goose guide here in Texas pimping their bismuth dove loads.

GET WOKE, GO BROKE!

Add it to the list...

Dean has nailed it on the head. I just left a blistering Google review and would encourage everyone else to do so.

IMO Boss is a slick marketing company who just happens to be shotshell manufacturer. They've identified where the action is at currently & going into the future. Any google reviews or emails will probably be met with an eyeroll followed by an Ok-Boomer reaction:shock:

The future of the shooting sports isn't with us boomers, it's with the young gun Benelli auto-jammer magnumitis crowd who think that Boss has developed a magic elixir type ammo that makes game fall from the sky just from the mention that you're using Boss ammo. I can just imagine a ducks last thoughts were, Thank god I was killed by Boss Bismuth rather than that evil lead:rotf:

Right or wrong ammo manufactures have been duping us shotgunners forever! Damascus is dangerous and a sure trip to death or dismemberment, lubaloy shot has twice the killing power of chilled shot, you need to use 12ga 1 3/4oz super magnum high brass #4's to kill a pheasant and it's a must that you have 20 super-duper ported screw-in choke tubes with you at all times. Boss is simply marketing to the generations that's been indoctrinated with the we have to save the planet, EV's are great, lead will kill you if even touch it with your bare hands & big brother has our best interests at heart with banning lead ammunition.

I don't like it, but spending a bunch of time fighting it is probably akin to pushing a rope:banghead:

We should all do as we see fit.

Apparently this has snowballed a bit. I got no response from a call or email but the Google review did finally get one. Just some blah blah blah, but it's apparently starting to get their attention at least.

Perfect. Proof that one man can make a difference...

I took a moment to send the link to this thread to Boss. I told them I expected their position may hurt business. Here is a copy of the response I recieved.

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Hi MArk!

Thank you for sharing. It's amazing the things people will post when ignorance is celebrated on the internet. We support the extensive research SLF has done, and as a small business in today's America, actually believe we could use a little less government and don't support a sweeping lead ban of any sort. We developed a shell that is a direct replacement for lead to be used by waterfowlers, and think that is trap shooters would rather shoot lead (which I believe is the intention of the initial post) they should be free to do so. We're happy to talk through any questions you may have!

Thank you again for your time and support, we certainly appreciate it!
Meghan Superczynski

Attachment 122869 Someone sent me this. Now I'm more confused than normal. This is more complicated than it seems

You nailed it Paul.:bowdown:

Complicated?
 

Dan,
I may not be following the whole conversation appropriately. But, what is the complication you are speaking to?

Ask them to show the studies proving that. NY just failed to pass a lead ban because the data didn’t prove it was as toxic as perceived. And that’s a legislature that is controlled by left-wing wingnuts who ban anything right of left. So I call STINK on Boss. Probably owned by some young, moderate people who think they’re environmentally friendly, but also sporting, which as we know is rare. Sporting also means rock, climbing kayaking, and speed skating on an Adirondack lake so take that for what it’s worth.

Dean, The reply Mark received from Boss sure seemed straight forward but the exhibit someone sent me sure indicates that Boss has a strong position against the "poison" we shoot targets with.

I hadn't seen that part of it. Yeah that whole thing with the earthworms, I mean come the hell on......

Mark, thanks for sharing.

“Ignorance celebrated on the internet”. This statement feels a lot like the Bud Light marketing executive’s comment about their customers. Feels very patronizing and apathetic to a concern by either customers or potential customers. I think the dichotomy here is saying you do not support a ban on lead, yet you donate to an organization whose mission is to do just that.

After this got posted, pretty much everything they said is out the window.

I saw the same thing when I was thinking of purchasing their products and stopped immediately.I get the feeling the owner is talking down to you/us.They would gladly give up all lead production and then scratch their heads when they're told their product os banned.
I just happened to read the steel shot history in the Lyman Shotshell Reloading Handbook 5th Edition.Which I always questioned the decision and in hindsight more ducks were killed with steel shot than ever with lead poisoning in my opinion.The fact that no direct studies/evidence ever gets published/distributed about the ban.Here's just one goggle search which the opening statement is suspect.Unless I'm reading this wrong it states following the lead ban cripples went down.
https://nsojournals.onlinelibrary.wi...002/wlb3.01001
try and find hard evidence anywhere that is trust worthy.It doesn't matter as it will never get repealed.But given an inch and they'll take a mile every time.Look at the cost of lead now.

WOW one search and copy and paste and it's blocked

Bob, I've always believed that steel shot and some of the non toxics have crippled more birds that eventually die than were harmed with lead shot. I know that supposedly this was done to protect eagles and vultures, scavengers if you will. Personally I believe that the predators are out of control but I digress. The problem is that using lead shot even a mediocre shot could harvest a bird. When they were forced to use a ballistically inferior product coupled with their poor shooting, cripples went up.

So here is the article.

I use lead in the uplands and have tried all types of bismuth for waterfowl. Boss works best in my model 21 duck and Fox wildfowl. When something better comes along ill switch. talking to them in the past was like speaking with teenagers. They should shut up and make ammunition.