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calvin humburg 04-14-2011 08:44 AM

Trojan
 
Got me a Trojan 16 ser.# 163223 supposed to be IC and Full what distance do you shoot at how big a target to figure choke on 16? It's got issues like most ol guns but I really like it sure is lite. It's a 1913 gun, is there any way to find how many Trojans were made before it? I believe they made a few in 1912. ch

Bruce Day 04-14-2011 10:30 AM

Calvin, for you to find an answer to your question, you'll need to go back page by page in your Serialization and Identification book and count Trojans. And then, you know there are missing numbers in the ID book.

Mike Shepherd 04-14-2011 10:55 AM

Congratulations on the Trojan 16. The quail gun I carry most of the time is a VH 16.

The doulblegunshop.com has a section with much shotgun info- shot size, gauge diameter, choke information etc...

http://www.doublegunshop.com/info.htm

That is where I copied this table:

Shotgun Chokes (*typical values) for a 12 bore gun

Points** Inches American European % of Pattern in 30" circle @ 40 yards***

0 .000 Cylinder S 40%
5 .005 Skeet VZ 45%
10 .010 Improved Cylinder 1/4 50%
15 .015 Skeet #2 - 55%
20 .020 Modified 1/2 60%
30 .030 Improved Modified 3/4 65%
35 .035 Full 1/1 70%
40 .040 Extra-Full - 75%

I would use the same set up for a 16 gauge shooting an ounce of lead.

Best,

Mike

Fred Preston 04-14-2011 11:00 AM

Calvin, I have 161555; a little "older" than yours? It was the last of a batch of about a dozen Trojan 16s. I haven't patterned it for an overall count, just a kill zone count at 35 and 50 yards; probably mod & full at 28". I use spreaders when in the coverts. Like yours, a nice light, sweet handling gun.

Dean Romig 04-14-2011 11:50 AM

I have a nice 26" Trojan 16 that my brother-in-law swears is his (but he hasn't paid me for it yet so it's still mine and resides in my safe) and it carries like an 0-frame and is choked about IC/FULL. A great little upland gun. 202066 made the same year that my Dad was born.

Dave Suponski 04-14-2011 06:09 PM

I have a 20 gauge 26" Trojan number181759 that is a twin to Deans gun.A wonderful little gun. Pa'tridge tremble at my approach....:rolleyes:

charlie cleveland 04-14-2011 06:15 PM

yall like that 16.. as you get older a person tends to go to a lighter gun...as they say a 16 handles like a 20 ga and shoots like a 12 ga... congratulations on a fine gun... charlie

scott kittredge 04-14-2011 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Suponski (Post 40289)
I have a 20 gauge 26" Trojan number181759 that is a twin to Deans gun.A wonderful little gun. Pa'tridge tremble at my approach....:rolleyes:

ok dave:cool:, i've seen you shoot:rotf: scott

Dave Suponski 04-14-2011 07:22 PM

:biglaugh: :throw:

Dean Romig 04-14-2011 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Suponski (Post 40289)
Pa'tridge tremble at my approach....:rolleyes:

Dave, my good friend.....

......Oh alright, yes they do. I've seen them cower trembling. The noise of your shotgun blasts bothers them. :whistle:

Thomas L. Benson Sr. 04-15-2011 12:28 AM

Calvin: I think you will love that little 16 or maybe your kids will claim it. I use a VH 16 O frame for Idaho quail and doesn"t wear you out walking. Mine is ser. 109146 Thomas L. Benson Sr.

Pete Lester 04-15-2011 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Suponski (Post 40289)
I have a 20 gauge 26" Trojan number181759 that is a twin to Deans gun.A wonderful little gun. Pa'tridge tremble at my approach....:rolleyes:

Dave if you hunt them earlier in the season they are not shivering from the cold like that.

Dave Suponski 04-15-2011 08:14 AM

I really hope you guy's are having some fun with all this....:whistle: I know it's not me but that great little gun.....:)

calvin humburg 04-15-2011 08:20 AM

I'll slill be carring the ol 8 lb 8 0z 10 a lot but now Jett can shoot a double with the barrels horizontal:) Going to try to get some shells rolled up today so I can shoot it. Might have to try her out on the state target.:whistle: Oh Dave remember "Revenge is a dish best served cold". old klingon proverb. Hey Francis what movie is that from?

Pete Lester 04-15-2011 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Suponski (Post 40331)
I really hope you guy's are having some fun with all this....:whistle: I know it's not me but that great little gun.....:)

Talk about stating the obvious :rotf:

calvin humburg 04-17-2011 09:11 AM

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Dave Suponski 04-17-2011 09:19 AM

Nice Gun Calvin....Congratulations!

Dean Romig 04-17-2011 09:24 AM

Calvin, that is one GREAT Trojan!

Harry Collins 04-17-2011 12:45 PM

Calvin,

A quick way to tell what choke you have is to place cardboard at shoulder level 10 yards from the muzzel. This will also tell how the gun shoots for you ie: high, low etc.
6" circle is 70% at 40 yards
9" Full Choke
12" Modified
15" to 19" Improved Cylinder

Harry

Russ Jackson 04-17-2011 01:14 PM

Calvin ,Great looking gun ! I like the Pad ,what kind is it ? Russ

charlie cleveland 04-17-2011 02:39 PM

harry i dont understand the 6 inch circle at 70 percent at 40 yards will you explain please... nice gun calvin makes me want to get me a trogan... charlie

calvin humburg 04-17-2011 10:45 PM

Think if means 70% percent of shot in 30 inch circle at 40 yards. Russ its a Jostam Hy-Gun Recoil-pad. At least its kind of neet since it don't have the original I suppose it thumped him a little. I'm shooting 7/8oz 2 1/2 long load from a helpful member and its pretty respectable. Put a golden phesant in it and I bet you would know it.


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