Parker “P” Grade Shotgun
 

Hi I am a new member and I am NEW to collecting and learning about Parker’s. I have a P grade with some ornate engravings and a Damascus barrel. Did the P grades have much engravings generally speaking? I checked the water table it’s marked with a “P”. Thank you !

Pictures would help as P grades had minimal engraving

"A" barrel? or Barrels?

Is it a hammer gun or hammerless?

Does it say Damascus Steel on the top rib?

The “P” or Grade 1 in either configuration would normally have had either Twist or Laminated Steel.



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Your post is a little confusing. A 'P' grade is a Grade one, but the inverse isn't necessarily so. I have never seen a grade 1 hammer gun with a P on the watertable, nor have I seen a P grade with anything but 'Twist' or 'Parker Steel' barrels.

When I get home from deer camp I will post pics of both hammerless and hammer Grade 1 guns with Laminated Steel barrels.





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Edgar, a mutual friend acquired a20 ga. Hammergun late production that had a P on the water table

It won't be the last time I was wrong, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't the first either.

edit: TPS has an asterisk under 'laminated' to indicate there were, in fact, 20.

Edgar, are you looking in the Grades section for both hammerless and hammer guns?





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Yes. Under Hammerless, there is an asterisk in the Laminated column. The foornote says they are listed as PT but the stock books show 20 of the to have Laminated steel barrels.

Ok but several Grade 1 hammer guns were made with Laminated Steel barrels and I have owned three of them in 16 gauge on the 0-frame and still have one.





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Yes, I agree, but that wasn't what I was (incorrectly) questioning. My question related to Lam barrels on HammerLESS guns, which I now know, existed.

This one belongs to a friend in VT.

I sent the barrels to Brad Bachelder for him and they came out beautifully.

There are a couple of anomallys - the legend on the rib says Damascus and the stamp on the right barrel flat where the steel type is normally stamped... is stamped with a T for Twist Steel.


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I am trying to figure out how to upload the Parker P grade engravings will do asap. It’s a Damascus barrel and it’s hammer less.

From page 268 of TPS at the end of the Grade 1 section.


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A couple?
I came home with a puppy that smelled like a skunk. Turned out, it was a fox.

I have a grade 1 lifter with a P on the water table. Scarce, but they exist.

Gentlemen, the "suspense" is killing me.


As we are in the "Single Barrel Trap" forum. Are we talking about a "barrel", or "barrels"......


Thanks.............:corn:




Bobby

Weird isn't it Bobby, how we get distracted and off on other tangents?

But, looking back, nothing on this particular thread was about SBT guns.:rotf:

Guilty as charged... :bigbye:





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I also own a PH 16 gauge hammerless with Laminated Steel barrels, or is it a 20? Hold on.

......we're waiting Bill....





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My PH hammerless Laminated gun is a 20.

I would love to see that desirable little Parker!





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I want to see the SP with a Damascus steel barrel. :rolleyes:

I was confused too! SBT forum and there was talk of hammer or hammerless. Knew Parker didn't make SBT hammer guns. I started wondering who/what/where/when someone ordered a SBT in an external hammer configuration? Mein kupf schmartzen! :shock:

You need to post pics of that P grade 20!! :corn:

Not a Parker but here you go. Iver Johnson Special Trap.

John, I’ll agree it has an external hammer, but it’s not on a side-plate. A Winchester 1897 has an external hammer too. :cool: