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Stan Hoover 09-20-2023 11:51 AM

History Research
 
Hello,

I know we have some very experienced guys here when it comes to looking up history on past owners/buyers of these guns we enjoy. I would like to tap into the knowledge if possible:cool:

I'm looking to find info on a gentleman by the name of Lewis P. Kalb. He was the recipient of a Grade 7E NID around 1946. I have no town or state.

Does this name ring a bell with anyone or maybe someone has a good way of searching past shooters?

Thanks,
Stan

Drew Hause 09-20-2023 02:12 PM

In 1940 a Lewis P. Kalb lived in Grosse Pointe, Michigan, age 51
Grosse Pointe was then one of the wealthiest cities in the U.S.; home to the Fords.
Contact the Grosse Pointe paper and I'll bet his name will come up.

Stan Hoover 09-20-2023 02:40 PM

Thanks Drew

Drew Hause 09-20-2023 03:02 PM

Scroll down toward the bottom of the 2nd column of p. 8
http://digitize.gp.lib.mi.us/history...1948-06-10.pdf

Kalb was born in Ohio, and he was an automotive engineer with Standard Parts Co. in Cleveland in 1920, then 30 years old

Randy G Roberts 09-20-2023 03:59 PM

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As taken from a 1940 census, might be your man.

Bill Murphy 09-20-2023 07:24 PM

Stan, was he a skeet shooter or a trap shooter? How long were his barrels?

Drew Hause 09-20-2023 08:27 PM

Yep, the Country Club of Detroit, Grosse Pointe Farms had Skeet fields.

Stan Hoover 09-20-2023 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 395421)
Stan, was he a skeet shooter or a trap shooter? How long were his barrels?

Bill,

I very much doubt that he shot skeet with this particular gun, the barrels are 30” but very tightly choked, choke measures .047 in each barrel :shock:

It is more of a sporting/hunting configuration in my opinion, maybe trap, although a trap gun in my opinion would have more options.

30” barrels, extra full chokes, double triggers, ejectors, splinter fore end.

A Cody letter did not reveal much, only that it is a 7 with ejectors, all the dates as it passed thru the different setions of the shop, soft fit, stocker, polish, engraver, assembly, hard fit, and then to brown. It was taken out for high grades in April 1941 and finished in December 1946, 5 year period. It is a very late NID, very close to the end of double era on Falls Creek.

Last line states it was for Lewis P. Kalb

Alfred Houde 09-21-2023 05:57 AM

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...7/lewis-p-kalb

Stan Hoover 09-21-2023 10:17 AM

Thanks to all for your helpful information, I wish I had more information as to where the gun was shipped.

Stan

Gary Carmichael Sr 09-22-2023 03:26 PM

Stan do you have the gun?Gary

Stan Hoover 09-22-2023 05:01 PM

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Yes, 2nd from the top down, just below the 20 gauge

William Woods 09-23-2023 03:55 PM

Beautiful works of art Mr. Hoover.

CraigThompson 09-23-2023 04:03 PM

Mr. Hoover sir , you da man :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

CraigThompson 09-23-2023 04:30 PM

Stan are any of those in the above pic 10 gauge ?

Stan Hoover 09-23-2023 07:31 PM

Unfortunately no 10 gauge Craig,

I think there may have been a Grade 7 10 gauge or possibly a 12 gauge Magnum sold at Julia’s a number of years back, other than that, I’ve never encountered a Grade 7 10 gauge.

According to company summary provided by Keith Houghtling for Walt Snyder’s book, there were approximately 22 Grade 7 NID’s produced. This does not include earlier Ithaca models.

Me and a friend had 5 together and we thought pictures were necessary.

Stan

PS. There were 2 28 gauges and 2 410 Grade 7’s, I wonder where they are:whistle:

Bill Jolliff 09-23-2023 11:18 PM

Stan,

That Ithaca oil can ain't too shabby either!

Dave Noreen 09-24-2023 12:10 AM

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Steve Barnett had this No. 7E 28-gauge for sale at one of the Vintage Cups I attended at Sandanona.

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The Magnum-12 Julia's sold back in 2013 for $69,000 was a Sousa/$1000 Grade.

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Stan Hoover 09-24-2023 01:31 PM

Thanks for sharing those pictures Dave,

Some impressive guns to this Ithaca fancier.

Am I seeing correctly on that 28 gauge tag, 25” barrels?

I would have thought with it being a fully optioned gun with vent rib, it could have had 28” or 30” barrels for targets


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