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Jack Pesci 02-22-2023 11:38 AM

NID grade 5- unusual
 
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I have in my possession an Ithaca NID grade 5 that is unusual in that it is a non ejector with vent rib, beaver tail forend, and what appears to be a factory grade three but-stock. Anyone have any thoughts? Could it have been ordered with this configuration?

Harold Lee Pickens 02-22-2023 12:02 PM

Interesting, are you able to post pictures, there are some pretty knowledgeable Ithaca guys on the forum.

Jack Pesci 02-22-2023 12:30 PM

Pictures added
 
I just managed to add the pics. Took me awhile to accomplish that.

Dean Romig 02-22-2023 01:00 PM

Definitely looks like a Grade-3 buttstock...





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John Davis 02-22-2023 01:14 PM

What’s it choked? And barrel length?

Jack Pesci 02-22-2023 01:38 PM

Chokes and length
 
Barrels are 32". Chokes are .010" and .014" Front bead is ivory and brass and the middle bead is ivory.

Bill Davis 02-22-2023 01:47 PM

The forend is not a Grade 5 either. Perhaps it was restocked front and back with with a lower grade wood! A definite mystery, but I’m confident it’s not factory work!

Dave Noreen 02-22-2023 01:48 PM

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The checkering on the grip is No. 2.

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The No. 3 has a couple more points at the front.

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Stan Hoover 02-22-2023 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 383187)
The checkering on the grip is No. 2.

The buttstock has Grade 2 checkering like Dave said, it does appear to be an Ithaca buttstock I believe.

The forend is not an Ithaca forend, shape is not correct and it does not have the triangular ebony inlay.

Jack Pesci 02-22-2023 02:16 PM

I have added two more pictures. I do see that the stock has number two checkering, thanks!
The stock has the same serial number stamped under the trigger guard. The stock really looks like a factory stock. and the age of the wood and finish is in keeping with the age of the gun. Please look at the inside picture of the forend. If someone other than the factory made this forend then I think they were very good.

Stan Hoover 02-22-2023 03:24 PM

Jack,

My opinion would be that it is definitely not an Ithaca forend, I’m starting to question if that gun originally had a beaver tail forend. I’ve never observed a forend that had those milled areas as yours.
Does the forend have the long screw going from the front of the forend that fastens to the forend metal?

Since it is a 5 with silver birds versus gold, is it in the 454,000 serial # range?

Thanks,
Stan

Joseph Sheerin 02-22-2023 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 383177)
Definitely looks like a Grade-3 buttstock...

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Checkering pattern looks identical to my G2 stock.

John Davis 02-22-2023 03:52 PM

All I can say is, if it were mine I'd be shooting Doubles trap with it. Maybe a tad open but if you are quick enough.....

And trap shooters don't care what's been done to it.

Jack Pesci 02-22-2023 04:35 PM

Serial range
 
Serial no is 4500xx. Not sure about the screw you asked about .

John Davis 02-22-2023 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pesci (Post 383200)
Serial no is 4500xx. Not sure about the screw you asked about .

Jack, like on a Parker btf.

Dave Noreen 02-22-2023 07:10 PM

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The few NIDs I've been inside of had the serial number stamped in the head of the stock.

It appears that forearm was highly modified to move the Deeley latch quite a ways forward. A Normal No. 5E forearm --

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The OP's forearm --

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It appears the base of the forearm iron is an ejector iron with the metal yoke that the screw at the back of the forearm wood goes into.

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A normal extractor forearm --

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Stan Hoover 02-22-2023 08:35 PM

Ithaca Forend
 
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Dave brings up some good points, I’m not sure what’s all going on with that forend. I’ve included a few pictures of a Grade 5E forend

Jack Pesci 02-23-2023 07:34 AM

I appreciate all of your input. I will be selling this gun for the family of a deceased friend of mine and your information helps me to get a handle on what to ask for it.

Dan Steingraber 02-23-2023 08:07 AM

Good luck in Louisville this weekend Jack.

Randy G Roberts 02-23-2023 10:17 AM

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Another 5E....


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