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She's a Beauty!
So a friend of mine just came to me talking about how he stumbled into a couple of classic firearms and was asking if I could get them cleaned up for him and "what are they worth?" The lesser of the two is an old S&W revolver (still a beautiful gun) and then he pulls out one of the most beautiful shotguns Ive ever seen. So this is as presented, before knocking off the little bit of surface rust on there. Checkering is pristine. Now I am just trying to figure out if I need to sell a kidney or a maybe a few dozen eggs to buy this off of him. Any information on this beauty is appreciated. What I have gathered so far....
1887 Top Lever Hammer DH Grade 3 1,352 produced Serial # 49877 https://parkerguns.org/forums/pictur...ictureid=14205 https://parkerguns.org/forums/pictur...ictureid=14211 https://parkerguns.org/forums/pictur...ictureid=14206 https://parkerguns.org/forums/pictur...ictureid=14209 https://parkerguns.org/forums/pictur...ictureid=14207 |
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Very nice is an understatement!
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Not DH, H is for Hammerless. Beautiful gun.
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Here is a couple more. Will hopefully grab a couple more pics of the muzzle end this evening.
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Very nice, but why no damascus pattern shows. I would expect some nice pattern in the protected area of the barrel flats. It almost looks like it was cleaned at some point or blued and cleaned? Very strange
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That gun looks to be in excellent condition. I do however agree that the CC looks odd. THe locks have intense blue color, whilethe protected areas have almost none remaining. Looking at the wood and checkering vs the metal, I would think an older refinish and maybe recut. Still a very desireable gun.
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Ok, many more detailed pictures now that I have it in my hands for a few days. Also I can share the story behind it now that I have finished crying about it. So a friend of mine was approached by an elderly woman in his neighborhood. She said her husband passed away in 2021 and she was wondering if he would sell his guns for her. When he said he would help her out and try to find out how much he could get for them, she said "No, they are yours, whatever money you get for them you keep." She said her sons didn't want them and she just wanted all the guns out of her house.
So here are some more pictures of the $0 1887. https://parkerguns.org/forums/pictur...ictureid=14231 https://parkerguns.org/forums/pictur...ictureid=14230 https://parkerguns.org/forums/pictur...ictureid=14216 https://parkerguns.org/forums/pictur...ictureid=14228 https://parkerguns.org/forums/pictur...ictureid=14224 https://parkerguns.org/forums/pictur...ictureid=14220 |
Beautiful Grade 3.
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It is quite typical that the color retention on the lock plates is stronger than on the frame and other steel parts. I don’t know the reason for this but I have a few hammer guns where this phenomenon is very evident. . |
Geez, sorry to see that your buddy got an abused Parker. Top lever is bent, probably was rusted stuck and the owner strong armed it. Metal butt plate is deteriorated so badly the buttstock shows through. We won't even go into the dangerous Damascus barrels known to blow up at just the mention of smokeless powder. I need to do my due diligence and offer to take that accident-waiting-to-happen off your hands. I'll trade you 1000 209 primers for the wall hanger. :whistle:
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Not sayin' a word. We've been in contact.
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Mike - How many primers are taking up space in your safe? Will work out a swap for my outstanding winter coat being offered elsewhere here.
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I agree that the wood is suspiciously immaculate, particularly the checkering. However there are two very tiny cracks (one from the top tang to the shield, the other off the back of the right side plate) and neither of them seem to have any finish inside the cracks. So if it was refinished, it was done a while ago. I’m assuming the ends of the barrels were cut at some point. And the pictures don’t show it well but there is still some coloring in the lever and much of the metal just not as bright as the side of the plates. The owner definitely took great care of his firearms. The rust is because since he passed, it was thrown in a $20 plastic gun case with a tube sock over the end of the barrels to keep it from rubbing the stock next to it.
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Barrel length is?
“I’m assuming the ends of the barrels were cut at some point.“ as per Scott, at # 16 above.
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Barrel length.
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My copy of Price & Fjestad (picture below) shows to expect 30 inch barrels.
At Page 206 the entry is: 49877 D3 T 0 C 12 30 A letter from our Researcher based on factory records is the strongest confirmation I know of for how they left the factory (when records are available, as for your example). |
Scott, please post pictures of the muzzles and the top rib at the muzzle.
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Looking at your picture of the muzzle, the barrels don’t appear to have been cut. That’s nice old hammer gun.
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First of all, thank you to everyone for all the info so far. If I can convince him to sell to me, the first thing I will do is get the letter from the researcher. If he won't sell it, I am still going to beg him to get the letter. Sorry for the gap in replying, we don't winter very well here in central Texas and its been a rough week. Finally got some pictures out in the sunlight and the Damascus shows much better. When I initially saw the pictures he had sent me asking about this, I told him my best guess as to value was going to be between $2K-$6K depending on overall condition. Any of you have a better idea of real value on it?
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