An Ithaca Classic Doubles
 

This is an Ithaca Classic Doubles 7 ES that I bought thinking I could have the stock changed from left handed to right handed by bending it. But, it was way to south paw to do that, so I had it restocked. The 20 gauge barrels are 30" and the 16 gauge barrels are 26". Unfortunately, the grade of wood was not quite as good as the original, but I like it. If the weather improves, I'll shoot it.
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A lovely gun!





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Nice gun!!

I never notice before the difference in the rib extension between a real NID --

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square at the back.

and the ICD NID --

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rounded at the back.

Wonder who engraved that one? I had Jack Jones engrave a gun for me and he was one of the engravers there. BTW, for those that don't know Jack passed last year. Interesting. He worked closely Ken Hurst and even Gournet back in the day.

And the two generations of ICD guns each have different extensions

I like the oak leaf engraving. It looks like that on my CSMC XE. I wonder if the same engraver did both?

I had Steve L. Make me a 16ga/20ga 4E Special. It’s still my favorite gun. The 471k SN range ICD guns are wonderful for the money and get more and more collectible by the day.

I didn't realize Josh that only 471 were built. They are pretty rare compared to Parker Reproductions.

My error - I should have clarified “guns in the 471,xxx SN range”. The guns in this series number around 200-225.

There were a total of about 500 ICDs made. They are about evenly split between First Gen (470***) and Second Gen (471**) guns.
Bob Jurewicz

Did Toscano (sp?) do any of their engraving?

471 gun
 

Yes Bob that's right. And if you'll recall our conversation several months ago this is a 471 gun. Thanks for your help. I'm hoping that the 28 gauge, that the guy has, comes available at some point.

That number is not that far off Matt. Only about 500 total between the two generations. 470,000 and 471,000 serial ranges.

Creative Art did some of the engraving and later they had an in house engraver.

Jack Jones was an in house engraver, but there may have been others. When I visited him several years ago he had two in the white guns that he was given when they shut down. Think one was a 20 and the other a 28 gauge. Wonder what happened to those guns after he passed.

http://www.firinglineonline.com/detail.php?cat=1&id=841

Engraving was performed by many. Two additional that come to mind at the moment are:
ADAMS & ADAMS AND CREATIVE ARTS.
Bob Jurewicz

Gunther Some guns unfinished at the time of closing were finished by Gunther Pfromer later.
Bob Jurewicz

Years ago after Steve Lamboy closed the business, the Hartman Bros. at Elmira Arms in NY had what they claimed was Steve's personal gun for sale, a 7E 28 ga. It was a beautiful gun; I never followed what happened to it.

The one I'm searching for is the ten gauge that Steve had at the Vintagers one year, at Sanonna. A one and only that never went into production.

Shooting Star
 

Another Ithaca Classic Doubles that I had the opportunity to buy a few years ago was this "Shooting Star" version that they made. But, again it was horribly left handed. I did get one of my left hand friends in Idaho to buy it. Unlike the other guns that they manufactured, this original Ithaca gun is a 32" field that they restocked, recased and reblued. You can tell by the serial number, which is 437258 and ICD added the SS in front of the SN. The wood and the checkering is really beautiful. I have some better pictures of it, but I can't locate them right now. These are actually listed in BlueBook now.
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Original Ithaca
 

Larry,

I believe this would be an original Ithaca that was produced in Ithaca?

And then modified by Ithaca Classic Doubles, or maybe that is what you had meant all along?
I believe all Ithaca Classic doubles produced were 470,000 and higher, 437,258 would mean that gun was produced in 1926 in Ithaca, NY

Stan

Original Ithaca
 

Yes Stan that's what I was saying. Maybe I wasn't too clear about that.

Gunther at one time lived very close to Jack Jones. They worked on a ton of guns together. When I saw Gunther at last years Southern, he said he was looking for another engraver to establish a relationship. Not sure who he found it anyone. Jack was a very interesting guy. I believe at one time he was a foreman for Ken Hurst when Ken was running a rather large engraving operation doing Colts etc.