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Aaron Beck 12-14-2022 12:08 PM

Round knobs
 
In anticipation of a winter restocking I am looking for photos of the parker factory round knob grips. ive always liked the one I have on my lc smith and admired what few parkers ive seen. I wonder if they were ordered to save money or as a compromise between straight and capped? Please post some photos for inspiration!

Reggie Bishop 12-14-2022 01:54 PM

Personally, I think it was just one of the three styles available to order. Pistol, Capped Pistol or Straight.

Randy G Roberts 12-14-2022 02:07 PM

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Here are a couple. I have at least one other that I have not photographed yet. I can try to get a cell pic tonight and post it.

Stan Hillis 12-14-2022 02:34 PM

On some other makes it was pistol (capped), or half pistol (round knob), or straight. Was Parker not this way?

Dean Romig 12-14-2022 03:01 PM

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Yes, Parker Bros. used those terms and sometimes also used the term "round knob".
A great deal of the time we see the half-pistol grip or round knob grip referred to as the POW or "Prince of Wales" grip. This is a misnomer.
The only guns that ever had a true Prince of Wales were those made for the Prince of Wales (King Edward) by Churchill to the specs he and the Prince of Wales determined were best. This was told to me by David Trevallion, stockmaker at Purdey of London and currently plying his trade or mentoring a successor in southern Maine.

Below is the only Parker I have ever seen with a POW-shaped grip. Note the very slight arc of the grip.





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Chuck Bishop 12-14-2022 03:13 PM

There was also the ball grip where the end of the grip at the knob was larger than the rest of the grip.

In the stock books, Parker labeled their grips CPG, P.G. or --- (straight)

Dean Romig 12-14-2022 03:29 PM

Right Chuck and I think we see those almost exclusively on hammer guns, most of the ball grips being on Lifters.





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Reggie Bishop 12-14-2022 03:31 PM

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In the stock books, Parker labeled their grips CPG, P.G. or --- (straight)[/QUOTE]


Isn't this what I said? :)

Bill Murphy 12-14-2022 03:33 PM

Dean, tell us more about the gun you pictured. Wow!

Dave Noreen 12-14-2022 03:34 PM

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In the hammer gun era Parker Bros. had the distinctly bulbous pistol grip that many collectors call the "ball grip" and many mistakenly apply that term to the half-pistol grips of the hammerless era.

Most Parker Bros. catalogs just state "straight or pistol grip" --

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By the Remington era they specify the "half pistol grip --

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Randy G Roberts 12-14-2022 03:40 PM

Invincible
 
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One of the nicest you will ever see IMO.

Dean Romig 12-14-2022 03:56 PM

Looks like Invincible No. 230329





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Dean Romig 12-14-2022 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 377376)
Dean, tell us more about the gun you pictured. Wow!



Wish I could Bill.... I copied the pics from the Internet several years ago... possibly one of our members' guns.





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Randy G Roberts 12-14-2022 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 377381)
Looks like Invincible No. 230329.

Dean you are correct.

Brian Dudley 12-14-2022 04:32 PM

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The second one in on the rack is a remington era 20g skeet gun.

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Brian Dudley 12-14-2022 04:36 PM

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Round knobs on hammerless parkers are relatively rare. However, for some reason most all 410 parkers I have seen have them.

Anyway, the obscurity of hammerless round knobs is what drove me to stock my repro A1 in that style. To throw people off the Repro scent, since they were never offered in that configuration. I will be doing another one this way this upcoming year.

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Randy G Roberts 12-14-2022 05:35 PM

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VHE 12 Double Trap, VR, 2 triggers and stocked high. Note the trap comb.

Chuck Bishop 12-14-2022 06:26 PM

Reggie, I was just trying to illustrate how Parker abbreviated their grip types in the stock books. In the order books, they didn't list CPG, just P.G. for both types and if the stock book is available, it would tell me the exact type and that's what would go in the letter. If the stock book isn't available, the letter would just say pistol grip. I have seen 1/2 pistol grip in the order book entry but it's rare. I'm assuming that it's just a round knob grip. Maybe someone who has a letter stating 1/2 PG can tell us if it's different than just a round knob PG.

Donald F. Mills 12-14-2022 09:41 PM

https://parkerguns.org/forums/pictur...ictureid=13100

https://parkerguns.org/forums/pictur...ictureid=13327

https://parkerguns.org/forums/pictur...ictureid=13329

This CHE letters as a half pistol grip.

Garry L Gordon 12-14-2022 10:02 PM

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Aaron, I hope you'll post photos of your restocked gun when it is completed.

Dean Romig 12-14-2022 11:08 PM

Don, 118143 appears to be the ideal Pennsylvania grouse gun!!!





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Robbie Payne 12-14-2022 11:24 PM

VH 20
 
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VH 20 half pistol grip

Aaron Beck 12-15-2022 07:18 AM

Thanks all for the photos.
Garry- ill circle back if I get the project going. Right now Im assessing options. I also obtained a straight trigger guard from a member and this is another likely starting point.

Bruce Day 12-16-2022 08:22 AM

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Parker grip

Dean Romig 12-16-2022 09:35 AM

The wonderfully sculpted 'oyster shell' grip that Bruce shows was a very rare variation of the "ball grip" offered by Parker Bros. on hammer guns. I think I've only seen three or four of them.





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nick balzano 12-16-2022 10:41 AM

I,m always amazed and somewhat envious of all the beautiful Parkers that the members have. As one who has three parkers (two trojans and one VH with with non- original wood) it always a treat to see some of the gorgeous Parkers. To all members and associates have a nice holiday season

Garry L Gordon 12-16-2022 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nick balzano (Post 377529)
I,m always amazed and somewhat envious of all the beautiful Parkers that the members have. As one who has three parkers (two trojans and one VH with with non- original wood) it always a treat to see some of the gorgeous Parkers. To all members and associates have a nice holiday season

Nick, I believe each has its own unique beauty, from low end to high. You should share photos of yours.

Bruce Day 12-16-2022 01:19 PM

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Half pistol grip

Dan Steingraber 12-16-2022 01:31 PM

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Rick Riddell 12-16-2022 07:09 PM

Aaron, that’s way cool, I might have one coming my way, I’ll bring it by after new years.

Donald F. Mills 12-16-2022 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 377429)
Don, 118143 appears to be the ideal Pennsylvania grouse gun!!!
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Funny thing Dean as I read your post that gun and I were passing through Wilkes-Barre on the way to Gamecreek in NJ for a couple day hunt with Dad. We ended our first day a few hours ago and the pup did well and the CHE was deadly on the birds. It has quickly become my favorite gun to shoot with the 28 gauge an extremely close second.

Michael Moffa 12-26-2022 01:49 PM

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Three round knobs:

Top to bottom CHE 12 2 frame, DHE 16 O frame, GHE 20 2 frame.

charlie cleveland 12-26-2022 06:02 PM

wow.....lovely ....charlie

Stan Hillis 12-26-2022 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Day (Post 377544)
Half pistol grip

What's the drop at heel on that gun, Bruce? Looks to be nearing 3".

E Robert Fabian 12-30-2022 08:18 AM

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My favorite CH


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