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Joel Hackett 07-21-2022 01:45 PM

Straight Grip Trojans ?
 
I know Trojans were supposed to be pistol grip only configurations from the factory and there are converted guns out there but I was wondering if anyone has ever seen a factory straight grip Trojan ?

Dave Noreen 07-21-2022 02:23 PM

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Only one I know of is the Trojan Skeet Gun in the museum at Ilion.

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Dean Romig 07-21-2022 02:39 PM

Thanks Dave - it even has the “Trap Comb”.





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Brian Dudley 07-21-2022 03:03 PM

Yes, the trojan skeet guns, which never really got built for sale is it. The one pictured is one of only built.

As far as we know.

Dean Romig 07-21-2022 03:18 PM

Brian, I had read there were two or three Trojan Skeet prototypes built but you went to Ilion and gained some information others of us have not learned.





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Brian Dudley 07-21-2022 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 368214)
Brian, I had read there were two or three Trojan Skeet prototypes built but you went to Ilion and gained some information others of us have not learned.





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Yeah, I am not sure on that. I had read the same as I recall.

Joel Hackett 07-21-2022 08:09 PM

With the Parker catalogs listing the Trojan as pistol grip only with “no exceptions”, that’s interesting to know. Thanks !

Russ Jackson 07-21-2022 09:12 PM

There was a very nice Trojan 20 gauge that sold this past week on Gun Broker with a straight stock ,the Trigger Guard appeared to my eye to have had an extension added which led me to believe it started life with a Pistol Grip Stock but I could have been wrong ??? Still was a very nice gun maybe the Gentleman that bought it is one of us and would share some pictures with us ! :corn:

Mike Koneski 07-21-2022 09:37 PM

I have a straight grip 20g Trojan, single trigger, checkered butt, two barrel set (26” & 28”) that will be in the display next week at our Rock Mountain SxS event. I think Mills has one too.

Dean Romig 07-21-2022 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Joel Hackett (Post 368225)
With the Parker catalogs listing the Trojan as pistol grip only with “no exceptions”, that’s interesting to know. Thanks !


True, but in the catalog where the introduction of the Trojan Skeet gun they pictured the Trojan with a straight grip, single trigger and abeavertail.





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Chuck Bishop 07-21-2022 09:49 PM

Mile, what's the S/N of your Trojan?

Randy G Roberts 07-22-2022 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Joel Hackett (Post 368225)
With the Parker catalogs listing the Trojan as pistol grip only with “no exceptions”, that’s interesting to know. Thanks !

We have seen other features in the PB catalogs that were referred to as "only available as" or some similar language only to have documented specimens that had those features contradicting the catalog. The most recent that I recall was a discussion recently not to long ago concerning BTFE's where the 1930 PB catalog stated "only available in 12 gauge" in yet we have a documented 20 gauge contradicting that. Never say never eh....

Brian Dudley 07-22-2022 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Koneski (Post 368231)
I have a straight grip 20g Trojan, single trigger, checkered butt, two barrel set that will be in the display next week at our Rock Mountain SxS event. I think Mills has one too.

But that gun is not factory.

Mike Koneski 07-22-2022 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck Bishop (Post 368234)
Mile, what's the S/N of your Trojan?

Asked about info on it and you looked it up. It’s from one of the missing books. 209285.
It even has a gold medallion under the stock with “FP” engraved on it. That means “First Place”.

Mike Koneski 07-22-2022 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Dudley (Post 368247)
But that gun is not factory.

Never said it was. But why would someone spend that much $$ on a 1920-something Trojan when they could have just ordered a graded gun for possibly less $$.

Brian Dudley 07-22-2022 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Koneski (Post 368249)
Never said it was. But why would someone spend that much $$ on a 1920-something Trojan when they could have just ordered a graded gun for possibly less $$.

How many times have we asked ourselves that question about several guns. Because people have more money than brains.

And in that guns case, the gun was likely put together after a new Parker could be purchased.

Dean Romig 07-22-2022 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Koneski (Post 368249)
Never said it was. But why would someone spend that much $$ on a 1920-something Trojan when they could have just ordered a graded gun for possibly less $$.


Some folks (like me) think Trojans have an almost classic look to them with a lack of the frame sculpting of any grade above it. We have all seen examples of "upgraded" Trojans with loads of wonderful engraving, fantastic wood, et al.
I think they are a wonderful pallette for such enhancements.





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todd allen 07-22-2022 03:18 PM

That Trojan is beautiful, but I'm one of those guys that sometimes does things the hard way.
Example: I could go to the store and buy some meat, already wrapped in plastic, for not that much money.
But what am I doing? 1200 mile round trip, live in a tent on the side of a mountain for a week, and then attempt to take a Nevada Mule Deer with a muzzle loader.
Don't take any advice from me about anything requiring logic.

Mike Koneski 07-22-2022 03:22 PM

Todd, acquiring protein sounds perfectly logical to me.

Jerry VanHorn 07-23-2022 09:51 AM

My 20 Trojan had a nice slim BT on it when I bought it at the pawn shop..26"..Rib extension..Double ivory..I had Noelle engrave it..and Dave F. fitted an original straight grip stock..and a Galazan triggerguard..

Dean Romig 07-23-2022 10:10 AM

Sounds nice Jerry… pictures??





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David Noble 07-23-2022 11:41 AM

Link to Jerry's new thread showing pictures of his straight stock Trojan.
https://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=36923

Dave Noreen 07-23-2022 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 368233)
True, but in the catalog where the introduction of the Trojan Skeet gun they pictured the Trojan with a straight grip, single trigger and abeavertail.





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What catalog was that? Is it pictured in The Parker Story? Anywhere else?

Bill Murphy 07-23-2022 02:23 PM

I don't believe it was in a catalog. There is one picture on a parts price list, maybe other places also. It was a trick to drive later day collectors crazy. I have pictures with the gun in my hands, but never got to shoot it.

Phil Yearout 07-23-2022 06:53 PM

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allen newell 07-23-2022 06:59 PM

Before he passed away, Brad Bachelder did a total restoration on a 20 ga 26 inch barreled Trojan for me. To this day that Trojan is my favorite and every time I take it out to shoot I remember Brad and thank him for the wonderful work he did on it.

Dave Noreen 07-23-2022 07:17 PM

The little Parker Bros. folder For Your Best Scores at SKEET Shoot a Parker, pictures a single trigger Grade 3 on the cover with a VH/VHE and a Trojan on the inside both with double triggers. All three with pistol grips and slim forearms. Form 103-25M-6/32

Allen Peterson 07-24-2022 04:33 PM

<img src="https://i.ibb.co/10YrSZn/Trojan-straight-grip.jpg" alt="Trojan-straight-grip" border="0">


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