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Andrew Sacco 04-25-2022 07:54 PM

Not a Parker but they shared a home..
 
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Ilion, NY. My first (and surely not my last) Model 31. She arrived the day after I left for the Southern. "Ball Bearing Action" is pretty accurate. Special grade 16g. I might be in love. THANK YOU to Brian Hornacek for spending time educating me about these guns (I already jumped on it so he re-affirmed my suspicions about it).

John Dallas 04-25-2022 09:06 PM

My Dad's M31 is my duck gun. No treasure - The stock as replaced, as my dad had the original shortened. New wood was an original stock from SARCO. After Lead was forced on us, I had the full choke replace with a Briley choke. Dad's still with me in the blind. I also have a M31 20 gauge lightweight as my wet weather grouse gun

Andrew Sacco 04-26-2022 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Harry Gietler (Post 362376)
WOW, So you finally Opened your wallet and spent some Silver Certificates,
I hope you cleaned the Moth Eggs off them before you departed with them!

Harry

I buy enough Harry, your undies are just knotted up because I don't buy from you.

Dave Noreen 04-26-2022 11:45 AM

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Beautiful Model 31. Congratulations!!

I see the date code on the barrel is RE, R = November E = 1936. I have a similar gun, but not as nice, with barrel date code AE A = March E = 1936 --

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Gotta ask, what makes you think your gun is a B "Special" Grade? I don't see it marked B Grade --

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Andrew Sacco 04-26-2022 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 362397)
Beautiful Model 31. Congratulations!!

I see the date code on the barrel is RE, R = November E = 1936. I have a similar gun, but not as nice, with barrel date code AE A = March E = 1936 --

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Gotta ask, what makes you think your gun is a B "Special" Grade? I don't see it marked B Grade --

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It was described as a "special grade" and I did ask if it had been stocked with wood from another gun or re-stocked. He didn't know. From what I understand the standard A grades were not checkered? Either way the condition makes sense for what it will be used for: fun on the clays course. Thank you Dave.

Dave Noreen 04-26-2022 02:12 PM

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From the introduction of the Model 31 --

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through 1936, the Model 31A "Standard" Grade had a checkered stock and slide handle.

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For 1937, Remington introduced the Model 37AP "Standard" Grade with a plain stock and ringed slide handle.

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The guns with checkered stocks and slide handles became the Model 31AC "Standard" Grade --

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That continued through 1938. By 1939, I guess they had used up the inventory of checkered guns and the gun with the plain stock and ringed slide handle became the Model 31A "Standard" Grade.

From the introduction of the Remington Autoloading Shotgun in 1905, the A "Standard" Grades had American walnut stocks and the B "Special" Grades had imported walnut stocks. This announcement appeared in the February 15, 1939, Remington Arms Co., Inc. catalog --

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In the January 3, 1938, price list the Model 31B "Special" Grade had a retail price of $77.45. In the February 15, 1939, price list the Model 31B "Special" Grade had a retail price of $51.70.

Dave Noreen 04-26-2022 02:28 PM

Model 17
 
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Continuing with my post above, things are the opposite with the Model 17. From the Model 17 introduction in late 1920, the Model 17A "Standard" Grade had a plain stock and ringed slide handle.

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When Remington replaced the Model 10 with the Model 29, the A "Standard" Grade got checkered stocks and slide handles. So, within the year the Model 17A "Standard" Grade did too --

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Early style Model 17A --

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Late Model 17A --

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Andrew Sacco 04-26-2022 03:35 PM

Thank you Dave I appreciate the resources.

Mike Franzen 04-27-2022 08:47 AM

Makes me want one.

Andrew Sacco 04-27-2022 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Franzen (Post 362480)
Makes me want one.

Smooth as warm butter. Will shuck a few in the coming days. It's choked modified so will be fun for clays. I just don't see many around. Likewise have been looking for a 16g corncob M37 in great shape but hard to come by. I called the Ithaca factory in OH about the new 28g M37. Have not seen one, I know one person who handled one and said it's all it should be. They told me they are backlogged so much they may not even take orders for new 28g guns until 2023 OR LATER.

Scott Janowski 04-28-2022 11:51 AM

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Not marked “B” grade but I have to believe it is.

Andrew Sacco 04-28-2022 12:43 PM

The last owner is not aware of anything done to it, and I wonder if there are records for these. I haven't had time to dig into it.

Dave Noreen 04-28-2022 12:59 PM

That looks like a Model 31-TC stock to me. Checkering pattern, grip cap and Hawkins recoil pad all look Model 31-TC.

Bill Murphy 04-28-2022 01:14 PM

Yup, TC.

Scott Janowski 04-28-2022 04:22 PM

Not marked TC, however it has 2 barrels both numbered to the gun, SKEET VR 26”and TRAP VR Full 30”
Originally had a rock hard Mershon pad.

Dave Noreen 04-28-2022 05:22 PM

The Model 31-TC was the only Model 31 that came with a 30-inch vent rib barrel. Does the serial number stamped in the head of the stock match the receiver?

Even though the Model 31-TC was pictured in the catalogs with the Hawkins recoil pad to the end, I suspect that the very late ones came with Mershon pads.


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