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Stan Hillis 03-21-2022 06:50 PM

Brass .410 cases
 
Does anyone sell all brass 3" .410 cases?

CraigThompson 03-21-2022 07:15 PM

Yes but not economically !

http://rockymountaincartridge.com/in...oad%20Kits.pdf

Jay Oliver 03-21-2022 08:20 PM

Magtech might make them, though I think those may be 2 1/2"

Arthur Shaffer 03-21-2022 08:28 PM

A 45 colt is essentially a 1-1/4" .410. The Taurus revolvers shoot both. Also, the .444 Marlin is about 1/4" shorter than the 2-1/2" and maybe do to experiment with.

CraigThompson 03-21-2022 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Oliver (Post 359228)
Magtech might make them, though I think those may be 2 1/2"


I had an unfired box of the Magtech stuff , but have sent it down the road . And yes they were 2 1/2" .

Stan Hillis 03-22-2022 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CraigThompson (Post 359213)

Have mercy! $4.70 apiece! That's pretty strong.

I had previously checked Magtech's website and their only .410s are 2 1/2".

How much more case capacity would one expect from an all brass 3" case as compared to a 3" Cheddite, roll crimped? I can squeeze .73 oz. of nickel plated 8 1/2s into a roll crimped Cheddite. Shouldn't the load capacity increase to over .75 oz.?

Mike Koneski 03-22-2022 08:02 AM

If you go to their website they are advertising "Business and equipment for sale". I saw that while searching for sources for .50-70 brass. Supply and cost issues probably caught up with them too. :crying:

Milton C Starr 03-22-2022 11:36 AM

https://www.rccbrass.com/product/410-bore-2-1-2-in/

Should be noted RCC uses a stronger alloy of brass than most cartridge makers.

Arthur Shaffer 03-22-2022 01:23 PM

When I was looking for some brass cases not too long ago, I wnet to their website and there was absolutely no mention of a brass shotgun shell anywhere, even using their internal search function. I have seen more new ones pop up at Midway etc since but they are likely inventory moving through the system.

Erich Bretschneider 03-22-2022 04:49 PM

I used to use 444 Marlin in my Stevens 410 sxs. One chamber was large enough that fire 410 shells would not size down enough, so I used 444 Marlin and they didn't swell much and the FL marlin dies sized them right down. I had a gasket punch that cut the right size wads. I might have the dies around yet, I've made four moves since the last time I looked for them.

Arthur Shaffer 03-22-2022 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Arthur Shaffer (Post 359300)
When I was looking for some brass cases not too long ago, I wnet to their website and there was absolutely no mention of a brass shotgun shell anywhere, even using their internal search function. I have seen more new ones pop up at Midway etc since but they are likely inventory moving through the system.

Forgot to add that The Gun Works/Muzzleloading Emporium has all gauges Magtech in stock. One of note is they have 16 gauge on special for $30 a box. I bought a few boxes to have around. I will use them if I work up BP loads in 16.

charlie cleveland 03-23-2022 01:18 PM

art smokeless powder works good too....keep pressure on the wads when hot glueing them down on top wad...and real tight wads are nessary on black and smokeless...I use a little black powder about a 1/2 grain over the primer for the smokeless no duds this way....charlie

CraigThompson 03-23-2022 08:19 PM

I just saw some ideas for 410 brass . I’d heard in the past before about using 444 Marlin brass for 2 1/2” and I just recently saw a guy say he uses 9.3x74R brass for 410 3” . It’s a thought but I’d suggest before buying the stuff I’d google the heck out of it .

edgarspencer 03-24-2022 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Koneski (Post 359261)
If you go to their website they are advertising "Business and equipment for sale". I saw that while searching for sources for .50-70 brass. Supply and cost issues probably caught up with them too. :crying:

They have had that posted on their website for many years.

William Davis 03-25-2022 07:38 AM

Rocky Mt was a regular supplier to single shot rifle shooters. I used them breech seating 32/40 & 38/55. Cases turned from bar stock, RMC would make about anything straight wall. They perform different than drawn cases. Expand don’t spring back much. They were inconsistent too, due to various grades brass used.

Owners sold the business some time ago & suspect new owners are selling inventory.

William

Arthur Shaffer 03-25-2022 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie cleveland (Post 359387)
art smokeless powder works good too....keep pressure on the wads when hot glueing them down on top wad...and real tight wads are nessary on black and smokeless...I use a little black powder about a 1/2 grain over the primer for the smokeless no duds this way....charlie

I mentioned the other day somewhere that the only thing different about a large pistol and a large rifle primer is a few thousanths in length. I have used a primer pocket conditioner reamer in large rifle size to condition all the magtech cases I have used. They really need it along with a hit with a bevel reamer to make them load easier. With that I can use a large or magnum primer, and never any duds.


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