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Brian Dudley 02-03-2022 08:27 AM

Help identifying this label.?
 
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When I was going through Parker paperwork that I had on hand, I found this piece inside of a catalog. It appears to be a reproduction case label or something of the sort. But I have not seen one just like it before.

Is anyone familiar with it?

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edgarspencer 02-03-2022 08:58 AM

Did Parker ever use any labeling with "Bro."?

Dean Romig 02-03-2022 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 354912)
Did Parker ever use any labeling with "Bro."?



Nope - not that I have ever seen. It's always been Parker Bros. or on very early things it was sometimes Parker Bro with superscript 's.





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Daryl Corona 02-03-2022 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 354912)
Did Parker ever use any labeling with "Bro."?

I see them quite often here in Baltimore.:eek::)

David C Porter 02-03-2022 11:26 AM

They were a retailer/agent in San Francisco
https://images.app.goo.gl/jxY6557MzjGzSyQ3A

Dean Romig 02-03-2022 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by David C Porter (Post 354928)
They were a retailer/agent in San Francisco
https://images.app.goo.gl/jxY6557MzjGzSyQ3A


No, no, no.... :rotf:





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David C Porter 02-03-2022 12:00 PM

What proof or documentation do you have that they weren't a Parker agent on the West Coast.

Dean Romig 02-03-2022 12:54 PM

They were but they never used the trade name Parker Bro. which its the subjwct of this thread.

Further, A.W. duBray was the agent and we know just about everything about him.




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Brian Dudley 02-03-2022 01:03 PM

This is about the same size as a gun case trade label would be.

Dylan Rhodes 02-03-2022 01:20 PM

Brian,

Is there anything to suggest it's not just something someone threw together as a cheap reproduction piece to hang or post somewhere? Or perhaps even to go in a case as you mentioned. What kind of stock is it on? I guess what I'm getting at is I could make that pretty quick and print it out right here on my PC.

edgarspencer 02-03-2022 01:50 PM

Apart from the 'Bro.' not being consistent with any original Parker label, simply 'PARKER GUN' isn't consistent either. It is "THE PARKER GUN" or "PARKER GUNS".

David C Porter 02-03-2022 02:16 PM

Isn't it possible, since A W Dubrey was the retailer/agent for Parker (& other gun makers) during this period, the trade label is his trade label with "Parker on top of the label. Some what similar to what other retail gun stores did: Griffin & Howe, Abercrombie & Fitch, even old Pachmayr in downtown L. A. It more than likely a repoduction of an old A W Dubrey trade label, or could even be possibly be original. The below link shows an alternate version.
https://images.app.goo.gl/jxY6557MzjGzSyQ3A

edgarspencer 02-03-2022 02:53 PM

I suppose it's possible, though pretty remote, as no such label appears in TPS, which is pretty inclusive.
Almost every case label I have seen has been the product of someones imagination. Some are very nice, others, not so much.
Mike Massina was one of the best case restorers around. The week before he died, George Purtill and I spent the day with him, and he gave me a stack of beautiful case labels, one of which I have used, ever since, in my walnut gun cases. It, like most, was entirely his own creation.

Dylan Rhodes 02-03-2022 02:55 PM

Let me express my lack of knowledge for a moment here - did Parker sell cases? Or would you have to buy the gun and obtain the case elsewhere?

Randy G Roberts 02-03-2022 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan Rhodes (Post 354963)
Let me express my lack of knowledge for a moment here - did Parker sell cases? Or would you have to buy the gun and obtain the case elsewhere?

PB would provide a case if requested. A&F cases were also offered for a 2 year stint I believe in the Remington era. They may have been offered at other times as well, not sure on that.

Bill Murphy 02-03-2022 03:30 PM

From at least the 1880's catalogs, maybe earlier, to the end of the Remington period, cases have been offered in Parker catalogs. However, I don't think we have ever seen an original Parker case label.

Randy G Roberts 02-03-2022 03:35 PM

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Dylan note the mention of the case in this letter.

Rick Losey 02-03-2022 04:21 PM

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Did Parker ever use the "Old Reliable" nick name in advertising

seems that would post date the manufacture of the guns

My guess is someone did a little editing work and made it - maybe for sale

easy enough to do with just a few minutes of spare time

Dean Romig 02-03-2022 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by David C Porter (Post 354954)
Isn't it possible, since A W Dubrey was the retailer/agent for Parker (& other gun makers) during this period, the trade label is his trade label with "Parker on top of the label. Some what similar to what other retail gun stores did: Griffin & Howe, Abercrombie & Fitch, even old Pachmayr in downtown L. A. It more than likely a repoduction of an old A W Dubrey trade label, or could even be possibly be original. The below link shows an alternate version.
https://images.app.goo.gl/jxY6557MzjGzSyQ3A

I don’t believe duBray’s employers, Parker Brothers, would ever allow him to alter their trademark for any reason whatsoever. Period.





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Dean Romig 02-03-2022 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Losey (Post 354978)
Did Parker ever use the "Old Reliable" nick name in advertising

seems that would post date the manufacture of the guns

My guess is someone did a little editing work and made it - maybe for sale

easy enough to do with just a few minutes of spare time

Yes Rick, Parker Brothers did in fact use “The Old Reliable” and/or “Old Reliable” in their advertising. There are several instances where we have seen it.





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Dean Romig 02-03-2022 05:21 PM

David, the hyperlink you provided to illustrate an “alternative” is in fact an original or a copy of an original Parker Brothers advertisement.





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Brian Dudley 02-03-2022 07:52 PM

The card was just inside of a parker brochure that I had in my small pile of catalogs and paperwork. It was wrapped in tissue paper and had someones return address sticker on it. Whatever it is, I am sure that it is a modern reproduction or manufacture. I was just wondering a reproduction of what? Something legitimate, or something made up. The material is heavy card-stock. Much like the case label reproductions are.

Mike Koneski 02-05-2022 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl Corona (Post 354927)
I see them quite often here in Baltimore.:eek::)

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Oh tay Banky!!

Mike Koneski 02-05-2022 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 354950)
Apart from the 'Bro.' not being consistent with any original Parker label, simply 'PARKER GUN' isn't consistent either. It is "THE PARKER GUN" or "PARKER GUNS".

Just like The Parker Pages? :corn:

Dean Romig 02-05-2022 03:47 PM

....Here we go again...





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Mike Koneski 02-05-2022 05:05 PM

:rotf::rotf::rotf:


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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 355165)
....Here we go again...





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