Vista raising prices of components again
 

Vista is again announcing price increases on ammunition and reloading components after a similar announcement last July. No new orders by dealers for primers until after 4/22.

https://theloadoutblog.com/2021/12/2...aterial-costs/

I think the end result of all this mess will be higher prices

Well in the Vista/Remington line about the only thing I’d want would be maybe a case of SP-10 wads and a case of SP-8 wads . So we’re talking maybe $100-150 additional at the absolute most . I can live with that .

I didn’t realize they had all that . But again other than the wads mentioned about all I’d want anymore would be a couple eights of Unique . I suspect if you don’t see anymore of the SP wads I mentioned the Gualandi wads will be the only game in town for the two gauges . I’ve already used the Italian wads in the 8 with success but I’ve not yet gotten any for the 10 although I have four bags ordered . Well perhaps CB will see fit to do limited knock off runs of the SP-8 and SP-10 I’d certainly have no problem with that . I’m finding my brand loyalties for a good part have gone to the wayside ! For years and years if a truck didn’t have a bow tie in the grill I wouldn’t buy it , now I’m driving one from the land of the riding sun ! What’s the world coming to .

The Remington SP10 wad is “discontinued” according to MidwayUSA.

Time to switch to the PT1044.

-Victor

I’d put very little stock in what Midway says . Then again they “might” be onto something . But then the Gualandi wad is unavailable as of the moment as well .

Really as a product theres no reason for Remington to make the SP-8 wads anymore, they're not actually needed for industrial loads. Winchester just uses fiber wads in theirs, shot deformation/setback probably isnt a high priority for busting slag buildup. Those kiln operators shoot thousands of rounds in a session going to a cheaper fiberwad would probably add up eventually. On the other hand theres little reason for them anyhow to set aside such a small amount of SP-8 wads for the few guys using them when they are selling industrial loads by the 9600 round pallet.

Craig BPI has the Gualandi 8 ga industrial wad in stock, a little bit bigger than the one PR sells $22/250.

There seems to be plenty of SP10 wads in Canada and the UK. Those vendors CANNOT ship powder, primers, ammo, bullets, brass (I think) or firearms to the US. I found one that accepted my order for wads. Canadian post is crazy money but I want the wads. We'll see if the sale and shipment goes thru. If so I will advise the members here.

I have 1000 of the Italian ones .

Ah hmmmmm :whistle:

At worse you might get a letter from US Customs with a xray picture of your package saying they incinerated it, I know someone that happened to :rotf:.

They cook $100 worth of hard to get wads I'll cry!

Just seen 6 bags of 250 SP10 wads listed on GI at $80 per bag seems a bit expensive.

There are a lot of components out there on the "auction" sites. The prices are high, but if it's either stop shooting/hunting or literally "bite the bullet" and pay high prices, we will all probably pay the high price. Prices will never drop back to pre-Plandemic price.

The folks in Canada came thru on the SP10s, delivered to Texas today. Placed a second order today and discovered the freight was the same for 5 bags as 2. Wish I'd known that on my first "test" order. They show 30+ available. www.ellwoodepps.com

The twenty bags I ordered are supposed to be here this coming Friday :whistle:

My twenty bags of Cannannada SP-10 wads arrived today . In very nice shape I might add .

Mine arrived early as well. The packing was first class. I checked on the ones on GI. It was $80 for the lot! Unfortunately they were gone.

After I read your post about ordering more I immediately looked at their website and they had 40+ bags . I entertained the idea of ordering another twenty bags but decided against . Then I looked again today after I got back from the post office and they had eight bags I believe .

I bet they are trying to figure out why the huge interest recently! All to the US.

I'm not worried about SP-8 wads since I came up with a way to make my own shotcups for the 8 gauge and Circle Fly has everything else.

Think I’m set with SP-10’s I have perhaps 6,000 . Like some of the Gualandi 10 gauge wads and have 2,000 on backorder with someone . As to the 8 gauge I’ve got perhaps 2,000 SP-8’s , maybe a thousand of the Gualandi 8’s at the house and another 1,500Gualandi’s on the way .

I ordered 7 bags of the SP10. Just checked now and they have 9 bags left. I have plenty. Someone get on these before I do!!

Mike what web site I checked BP and Precision both show out of stock, I really need SP10's I'm out of them.

Elwood Epps in Canadia.

http://www.ellwoodepps.com/

Wonder if those assorted 10 ga hulls would make it over the border, wouldnt mind getting a bag.

Thanks

My order shipped already! Ordered Sunday AM, shipped yesterday AM.

Im going to have to pass with shipping it comes out to $1.45 per hull I can buy Federal 10 ga 3.5" ammo to take apart for hulls which would be $1.47 per hull.

Seeing as we are buying wads not hulls, there's a big price difference.

Darn I missed those sp10's. They only had 3 bags left and 59 dollar shipping killed it for me.

Sent you a PM .

Price and shipping are in Canadian funds. I stocked up and ended up paying about 10 cents (U.S.) per SP-10 wad. Not bad for a hard-to-find (and discontinued) component. The PT1044 wads from BP come at about 8 cents per wad.

Now where in the world can I find some new Remington (green/unfired) 10 gauge hulls? Those too are now discontinued.

It’s getting harder and harder to shoot the Short Ten. Gotta stock up on components when you can.

Thank you Keith Doty!

-Victor

Vista is producing Remington ammunition at the Lonoke AR plant. They may produce Remington brand 10ga 3 1/2" non-toxic waterfowl loads and lead Turkey loads which were sold in the past. If so Remington 10ga hulls may continue to be available. Finding them is another question.

I contacted Remington ammunition and the customer service representative said they will supply the sp10 to reloaders in the future, but not the sp8. I believe Tom Amburst and Precision had a special deal to obain spa8s. I will check with Tom.

I wonder if its because Precision Reloading is a company they are more willing to deal with them. Both Remington and Winchester Industrial dont like being bothered with individuals it seems. Fiocchi occasionally sells their 8 ga hulls to ClayandGame when I emailed them about buying some they told me to contact a distributor to place a order. If the Winchester hulls dry up it may be a option they come in 1200 case orders.

Gentlemen it appears this group has snorked up the entire inventory of SP10s as Epps. This AM they show 3 bags! Hope all that needed some ends up with some. I'll look again, somewhere I found some available in the UK but went for the Canadian supply first. If I find'em I'll pass it on here.

www.sporteque.ca and GB921110520 (2 bags currently at $65 + shipping). Found a couple others in Canada but both said no components shipped out of Canada. This Sporteque outfit said nothing about shipping them one way or the other.

I kinda wish when I ordered the twenty bags I got that I’d gotten forty but I suspect I’ve got enough to last me awhile . Although I would like 4-8 bags of the Gualandi 10 gauge wads .