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Ronald Anneyer 10-05-2021 10:05 AM

12 gauge 2 frame barrels
 
I’m looking to purchase a 12 gauge 2 frame barrel set steel , Larry DeLGrego is restoring my Parker for me and the old Damascus barrels are no good. He said I need to try to find some barrels for it. If anyone has a set that they would be willing to part with I am interested, the catch is I would like to do it on consignment, that way they would ship right to him and he can inspect them and make sure they would work.

Brian Dudley 10-05-2021 05:42 PM

No barrel set will just fit on your gun without work. Some work or lots or work.

Did he give you specifics as to why your barrels are “bad”?
Historically Delgrego has never been willing to work on Damascus barreled guns. If that has changed, then fine. But just make sure that your barrels are actually junk and have a readon why. There is no reason to bury yourself in a set of new barrels and also destroy the originality of the gun unless you HAVE to.

Dean Romig 10-05-2021 05:50 PM

I agree with Brian completely.

The mere fact that the barrels are Damascus doesn't make them bad or junk. They need to be measured CORRECTLY before they are relegated to the scrap pile. Lots of us shoot Damascus barrels quite safely and they're a lot prettier than blued steel.





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Ronald Anneyer 10-05-2021 05:59 PM

He checked them, I’m going to put sleeves in them. Got ahold of Briley today and they are making what I’m going to need that way I can keep the Damascus barrels. He was going to use Kirk merington sleeves, but the guy has retired. He said they aren’t safe to shoot out of but sleeves will work that way I can keep the original barrels the gun was mad in 1883

Bob Jurewicz 10-05-2021 06:46 PM

Ron,
Did DelGrego provide the specific Barrel Wall Thickness of each barrel that lead him to the conclusion they were unsafe to shoot or was his conclusion based only on the fact that they are damascus?
Bob Jurewicz

Ronald Anneyer 10-05-2021 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Jurewicz (Post 345312)
Ron,
Did DelGrego provide the specific Barrel Wall Thickness of each barrel that lead him to the conclusion they were unsafe to shoot or was his conclusion based only on the fact that they are damascus?
Bob Jurewicz

Honestly I didn’t ask.

Bob Jurewicz 10-05-2021 07:16 PM

ASSK!!!
Bob Jurewicz

edgarspencer 10-05-2021 07:48 PM

Bob gives good advice, but, better yet, get them back and send them to any number of good barrel guys who don't have a history of harboring a dislike for damascus.

Bruce Day 10-14-2021 11:46 AM

Some years back Babe told me that my 1910 GHE Damascus barrels were “bad “ and not shootable. They are unblemished , never honed , not dented , not bulged , 2 frame 30’s . Completely original .
.040 wall thickness.
They have had a steady diet of 3 dram , 1 1/8 oz and some 3 1/4 dram 1 1/4 oz loads for the last 20 years with me and likely for the 100 years before me.

But if you don’t want your Damascus barrels , let me know .

You might ask how your gun is being “restored “ . Some of those so called restorations involve a new stock which is incorrect to the year and grade, spray on varnish finish , lack of a mullerd checkering border , incorrect rubber pad, and chemical case Tiger striped coloring . Those are not restorations but are reconstructions and usually devalue the gun apart even from the cost of the work.

Ronald Anneyer 09-03-2022 11:25 AM

sorry I haven't posted in awhile I got busy harvesting. Briley hasn't got back to him on the tubes. My Parker was missing some parts also. trigger guard and some screws.

Ronald Anneyer 09-03-2022 11:28 AM

trying to figure out how to upload pictures for y'all

Ronald Anneyer 09-03-2022 11:35 AM

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...59091651785544

Here are the pictures. I hope y'all can see them had to us Facebook.

Mike Koneski 09-03-2022 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 345319)
Bob gives good advice, but, better yet, get them back and send them to any number of good barrel guys who don't have a history of harboring a dislike for damascus.

Such as Breck Gorman, the Damascus Master!!:bowdown:

Mike Koneski 09-03-2022 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronald Anneyer (Post 345264)
I’m looking to purchase a 12 gauge 2 frame barrel set steel , Larry DeLGrego is restoring my Parker for me and the old Damascus barrels are no good. He said I need to try to find some barrels for it. If anyone has a set that they would be willing to part with I am interested, the catch is I would like to do it on consignment, that way they would ship right to him and he can inspect them and make sure they would work.

Get a second opinion on those bbls

Richard Flanders 09-03-2022 01:26 PM

Of all my Parkers, the only one I feed a steady diet of 3-3/4 dram loads through is an 1883 O-grade hammer gun that has stout 32" tight-choked twist barrels and a stout wrist. It's my best gun for pass shooting ducks by a large margin and I don't worry about the barrels one bit. It's a great trap gun also.

Bill Murphy 09-03-2022 02:33 PM

Many of us are not on facebook and can't see your pictures. Use another way.

Ronald Anneyer 09-03-2022 03:15 PM

was able to upload the pictures I have of the gun to an album on here. I only took 4 before sending it out.

https://parkerguns.org/forums/album.php?albumid=1048

Bill Murphy 09-04-2022 07:40 AM

That's quite a gun. What are the markings on the inside flat of the action? Thanks.

Brian Dudley 09-04-2022 08:41 AM

It looks like an upgrade that is worth finishing up right.

As others have said, get someone else to look at the gun/barrels. They are likely just fine. Delgrego is known for not doing anything with Damascus. Due to them being “lethal” and all. And these days it is truly disappointing to hear that they are still perpetuating that myth. There has been enough study, testing and first hand experience to have debunked it years ago.

Ronald Anneyer 09-04-2022 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 371123)
That's quite a gun. What are the markings on the inside flat of the action? Thanks.

I don’t have a picture of it, I know it’s a DH grade and the engraving isn’t factory. My great uncle who I inherited the gun from was a hand engraver for 40 years in Memphis, TN. He did it, I know it probably devalues the gun some but he had records at his shop showing where he did work for Tiffanys out of New York from time to time.

Ronald Anneyer 09-04-2022 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley (Post 371126)
It looks like an upgrade that is worth finishing up right.

As others have said, get someone else to look at the gun/barrels. They are likely just fine. Delgrego is known for not doing anything with Damascus. Due to them being “lethal” and all. And these days it is truly disappointing to hear that they are still perpetuating that myth. There has been enough study, testing and first hand experience to have debunked it years ago.

I still need to get the parts that are missing regardless if I get the gun back, he does have all original

Ronald Anneyer 09-06-2022 12:16 PM

Rust is deeper than minimum wall thickness on my barrels, that’s what’s wrong. Is that able to be fixed or no?

Mike Koneski 09-06-2022 05:00 PM

If that is indeed true, Briley can make full length tubes to fit your bbls. They can turn them into 20g and you’ll have a good shooting 20. They can do regular tubes or ultra-light. Fixed chokes or screw in. I had them do fixed chokes and regular tubes on three bbl sets. I think the price is $600-800 and they will stay in your bbls and are fit to those specific bbls. They work really well.

Destry L. Hoffard 09-06-2022 10:39 PM

Sending a damascus gun to Delgrego was a mistake in the first place. Get the gun back, start fresh with a smith that understands guns of this barrel type.

Phillip Carr 09-07-2022 01:30 AM

I have a good set of nice 2 frame Damascus barrels that might work for you. PM me if you have any interested .


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