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Randy G Roberts 09-13-2021 03:03 PM

Roundel Variation
 
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An interesting twist on a CHE Roundel was recently listed on GI. I do not recall seeing a Roundel with that type of border previously. Nice looking IMO.

No need to sprint to your computers fellas, it's a 12 ga with 30" barrels with some issues :rotf:

Brian Dudley 09-13-2021 03:08 PM

That one is a little different for sure. The trigger plate is just as interesting.

The V grade forend wood on it is a curiosity. From the poor fitment it looks like it is just a replacement from another gun. The barrels are Titanic though.

CraigThompson 09-13-2021 03:34 PM

If it were 32” I’d most likely bite !

CraigThompson 09-13-2021 03:34 PM

What’s a Roundel ?

Russell E. Cleary 09-13-2021 03:47 PM

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Craig:

The dog in the side panel engraving is circumscribed in a round "frame", not an oval. (as per initial post.)


Bruce Day post excerpt from a previous thread on this Forum :

''...Then only a small percent of C's made between 1900 and 1905 have rondelle side panels. I believe these were engraved by a single, unknown individual.

Some C's have rather standardized engraving, but from what I seen, when there are rondelle side panels the floor plate engraving will be unique to that gun...."


Here, thanks to Dean's recent post, is a photo of the oval "framing" of the dog engraving.

Brian Dudley 09-13-2021 05:49 PM

Note that the gun pictured above is a D grade, not a C. Most “Roundel” engraved guns were C grades. But there are examples of B grades done in that style. As well as Double Roundel motifs. I recall even seeing a G grade Roundel once.

I personally attribute the influence for the design to be Loy.

Dean Romig 09-13-2021 06:07 PM

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And we have a member who beat me out on a Damascus 16 GH on Gunbroker 14 years ago that has factory roundel panels.


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Brian Dudley 09-13-2021 08:41 PM

That was the GH that I was thinking of Dean. It is an oddity for sure.

Dean Romig 09-13-2021 08:51 PM

Right abd it’s very likely to be one of a kind for a G.





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Stan Hillis 09-13-2021 10:57 PM

Interesting. So, is the proper spelling of the term, describing this engraving feature, rondelle or Roundel?

Dean Romig 09-13-2021 11:11 PM

Stan, I have always preferred rondelle and have often previously spelled it that way but others, as well as Dr. Drew Hause, seem to prefer roundel.

But on further investigation, rondelle is used in terms of a of a piece of cut jewelry whereas roundel is defined as "1. a small disk, especially a decorative medallion." from Google definitions.





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Randy G Roberts 09-14-2021 07:49 AM

I believe that Bruce Day has been credited with coining the term Roundel to describe this variation of engraving. Bruce has always spelled it Roundel to my knowledge.

Stan Hillis 09-14-2021 08:05 AM

Thanks, guys. I continue to learn about Parkers.

Dean Romig 09-14-2021 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Stan Hillis (Post 343694)
Thanks, guys. I continue to learn about Parkers.


As do we all. :)





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