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Dave Noreen 09-04-2021 07:07 PM

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For you folks in the states that don't have an open season on Mourning Doves. What is the status of the invasive Eurasian Collard Doves in your states?

Jim DiSpagno 09-04-2021 07:12 PM

Basically none that I’ve heard of in the Garden State

Dean Romig 09-04-2021 07:49 PM

Same in Mass Dave - none that I've heard of.





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George Lang 09-04-2021 07:51 PM

Ditto in New York to best of my knowledge.

Dave Noreen 09-04-2021 08:02 PM

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Now that I got busy and went and found a range map, I guess it is not an issue.

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Chris Robenalt 09-04-2021 08:07 PM

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Dave, plenty of Eurasion here in AZ, just ask members Phil Carr and Chris Dawe. We lost this "honey hole" to city expansion a couple years ago. Now we hunt across the street, until today. Game & Fish informed us the city of Mesa incorporated the empty dairy and last piece of the county island we've been shooting on. Time to seek out our next honey hole. Plenty left, just need to drive alittle further. I told my buddy/member, Dale Medders, "time to start looking, as we packed up to go home". You don't realize what you have until it's gone.
Here's a pic of Phil and Chris after one of our morning shoots a couple years ago.
Chris, AZ

CraigThompson 09-04-2021 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Robenalt (Post 342835)
Dave, plenty of Eurasion here in AZ, just ask members Phil Carr and Chris Dawe. We lost this "honey hole" to city expansion a couple years ago. Now we hunt across the street, until today. Game & Fish informed us the city of Mesa incorporated the empty dairy and last piece of the county island we've been shooting on. Time to seek out our next honey hole. Plenty left, just need to drive alittle further. I told my buddy/member, Dale Medders, "time to start looking, as we packed up to go home". You don't realize what you have until it's gone.
Here's a pic of Phil and Chris after one of our morning shoots a couple years ago.
Chris, AZ

Five or six shoots like you get with the Eurasians would keep me in dove breasts for a year I think ! And that’s eating 10-15 in a meal .:cool:

Dean Romig 09-04-2021 08:30 PM

How do they eat compared to mourning doves?





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Chris Robenalt 09-04-2021 09:03 PM

Dean, the Eurasions are yummy! Dale is the chef. He'll cook a large batch, and we're eating them cold, the next morning with our coffee while we shoot! Alot more meat, it's a win win all around! I'll snack on them all day at work.
It may be awhile before I post pics. Need to find the next "honey hole", won't be long, promise!

Chris, AZ

Andrew Sacco 09-04-2021 09:07 PM

I am totally clueless on this topic and will have to start googling I guess. NY has no dove season even though it has broad support, we have idiots up top.

Dean Romig 09-04-2021 09:11 PM

In Mass they're classified as a songbird.





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Chris Robenalt 09-04-2021 09:34 PM

Andy, out here in AZ, we can shoot Eurasion dove 365 days year round! Use your Google app! It's a whole different world out here!

Chris, AZ

Andrew Sacco 09-04-2021 09:58 PM

Ok. I’ll wait for my invite out : )

Dave Noreen 09-04-2021 10:07 PM

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Andy, out here in AZ, we can shoot Eurasion dove 365 days year round!
Same here in Washington but one does need a hunting license. At the absurd cost of a Washington non-resident license, can't have friends over from Idaho, but then they have their own.

Garry L Gordon 09-05-2021 07:53 AM

They moved into Missouri over the past decade and are regulated along with the native mourning dove. We can shoot them in season and must count them toward our 15 dove limit. I generally have a pair nesting in my yard, and we see them in the small town we live near. I've never encountered one afield as they seem to like hanging around dwellings. I guess I could shoot my "yard birds," but I'm not sure I need the food that badly. Right now, they are kind of a trophy bird with me, but the State deems them invasive.

Dean Romig 09-05-2021 08:45 AM

Odd that the state would regulate the removal of an invasive species….?





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Daryl Corona 09-05-2021 08:51 AM

[QUOTE=Dean Romig;342869]Odd that the state would regulate the removal of an invasive species….?


Just another example of misguided regulations by unelected bureaucrats.:banghead:

Garry L Gordon 09-05-2021 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 342869)
Odd that the state would regulate the removal of an invasive species….?
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Dean, I'm not sure if your comment was a result of my post, but if so, I believe that what was at play in the creation of the regulation was that people would not be able to distinguish one species from another. There may be more in the southern part of the State, but we find them primarily near towns.

Whitewing dove are also regulated, and I've never seen one north of the Missouri River (or south for that matter), but they must be here according to our conservation dept. The regulation digest always includes pictures and "tips" for identification of the species. Below is the identification page minus the pictures. If you (or maybe Stan, the dove expert) might be interested, here's a link to the digest: https://mdc.mo.gov/sites/default/fil...08/2021MBW.pdf

I've often contended that going from state to state is like going to another planet. This may be an example.:rotf:

Dove Identification
Mourning dove
◾ Grayish-brown
◾ Faster wing beat, more
erratic flight path than
white-winged dove
◾ 12 inches from tip of beak
to end of tail
◾ Call is a soft, inflected
cooAHoo followed by several coos
White-winged dove
◾ Grayish-brown
◾ Slightly larger than
mourning dove
◾ Call is a soft hoohoo
hoohoo with the final note descending
Black spots Long, pointed tail
White wing patch
Long, moderately rounded tail
Eurasian collared-dove
◾ Gray
◾ 13 inches from tip of beak
to end of tail
◾ Call is a three-part coo
with similar tone to a domestic pigeon
Thin black band on neck with white upper border
Long, squared tail
Migratory Bird and Waterfowl Hunting Digest 2021–2022 9

Note: We will have our second Elk season in the last 100 years and will have a bear season this coming Fall. The bear are "invasive" as having entered the State through our southern border. No talk of building a wall yet.:whistle:

John Davis 09-05-2021 12:42 PM

It’s open season (ie, no season) on Eurasian doves year round in Georgia. And there’s no problem telling them apart from a mourning dove.

Dean Romig 09-05-2021 12:50 PM

[QUOTE=Daryl Corona;342870]
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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 342869)
Odd that the state would regulate the removal of an invasive species….?


Just another example of misguided regulations by unelected bureaucrats.:banghead:


I sure wish I could click on that “thumbs up” icon about a hundred times Daryl.





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Bruce Hering 09-05-2021 12:54 PM

Illinois: There is no limit on Eurasian-collared doves and ringed turtle doves, but they may be taken only during established season dates and hours and using only legal methods for mourning doves.

Limits: Illinois allows a daily limit of 15 doves and a possession limit of 45 doves at any one time. Eurasian collared-doves and ringed turtle-doves (African collared dove) do not count toward your limit but may not be hunted after you have reached your limit of mourning doves.

It is my understanding that the can be found in the areas of rural towns especially around grain elevators.

Though invasive, they can only be hunted during the std. season as stated above.... BS

Garry L Gordon 09-05-2021 07:13 PM

[QUOTE=Daryl Corona;342870]
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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 342869)
Odd that the state would regulate the removal of an invasive species….?


Just another example of misguided regulations by unelected bureaucrats.:banghead:

Yes, thank goodness our elected officials never come up with misguided regulations!:whistle::rotf:


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