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Usefulness of #9 shot
I came across a bag of #9 shot that I was considering for use in spreader loads at clays. I load 3/4 oz. of shot in my spreaders and 9's would give me a denser pattern than 8's at 30-35 yards if it takes me a while to get on target. Any thoughts on the effectiveness of 9's at that range?
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Has worked for me for years in 12 and 20. Try it i think you will like them.
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I shoot nothing but 9’s over my dogs on Means quail. Believe me when I say a 30 yards or less it’s deadly. I hear it leaves too much shot in the birds. That’s no my experience at all.
I have used 10 shot on pigeons and it will make a believer of you that the small shot is deadly. |
I like 9's in the early Woodcock season.
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I love them for short work. In 3/4 oz 12g they are amazing for skeet. It's my preferred early season woodcock/grouse size for shot.
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I have shot 9's for woodcock and bob whites while hunting. I have also used 9's on the clays course both as spreader loads and std 1oz. loads. You will need to check your patterns with which/what ever you use. They can be devastating on face type targets but may lack some on edge targets at distance.
I had a collegiate shooter that shot 9's as his first shot in trap doubles. He was really quick on the shot and all you saw was a puff.... Some trap shooters are shooting 8.5's from the 16 yard line also. 9's are the given choice for most skeet shooters. Just an FYI |
It puts a lot more lead in the air.
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Honestly I'd hate to say how many tons of #9's I've shot at skeet targets , dove and quail . In every gauge from 10 down to 410:whistle:
FWIW I was shooting #9 light loads in my 26" barreled 10 gauge hammer gun last evening at skeet . |
20 ga. #9 shot was all we used for Eastern Shore wild quail (bobwhite) over pointing dogs back in the 80's. I never noticed excessive shot in the birds.
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.Like Phil, I'm shooting #9, mainly from my 410. It's a deadly 1/2 ounce load for sure. Then #8 for most other loads. Doesn't destroy the bird.
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During WW2 the only shotshells my father could get were #9 skeet loads. They proved deadly on waterfowl.
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9's were all I shot when i was in a skeet league ( Long, long ago in a galaxy far far away ) :corn:
9's often ride in the right tube for woodcock (with 8's in the left) and have shot a lot of them on small bore clays courses they make a very effective target load |
I shoot 9 shot in my 28 gauge for doodles and quail. I find it effective.
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Okay, I'll be the black sheep. I don't like it for anything except clay birds at 25 yards or less.
https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums...698#Post600698 As can be read in the link I posted above I use 8s and 7 1/2s on quail. My hunting buddy uses 9s. Every instance I can remember of biting into a pellet in a quail breast is a 9. This is anecdotal, but is based on years of quail shooting. Anyone who understands basic physics should be able to understand that a 9 is much less likely to pass through a quail breast than an 8, or a 7 1/2, all else being equal. SRH |
When I was big in the REAL clay target games (skeet and trap) I kept 9’s , 8’s and 7 1/2’s at all times . Chilled 9’s for 12 and 20 skeet , chilled 8’s for 12 and 20 skeet doubles at all stations as well as 16 yard trap . Magnum 9’s for 28 and 410 skeet . Magnum 8’s for 28 and 410 doubles at all stations and finally magnum 7 1/2’s for handicap trap and trap doubles . When I quit the real games I went to 8’s almost exclusively for what little skeet/trap/sporting I shot . Now I shoot 7 1/2’s at sporting in all but the 28 and 410 I still use 8’s in the two little ones . And yes I now again keep 9’s , 8’s and 7 1/2’s but they’re all magnum shot now . FWIW when I started loading chilled shot was $9@ bag and magnum $1 more . Now it all seems to be pretty much the same price .
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Number 9 is great on snipe as well even at distance.One pellet will usually take them down.
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Craig I couldn't even keep track of that : (
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Austin going back to your post concerning the use of 3/4 ounce loads and spreaders at 35 yards in clay target games, I would think that would be no place for a spreader load with that 3/4 Oz load. At 35 yards with a 3/4 Oz load I'm wanting some choke in my gun, not a spreader. On the topic of 9's vs other sizes of shot at that distance I have no experience.
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-Victor |
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Most folks that are enamored with sporting claim they like it because of the lack of oerfect scores or possibilities of them over the course of a weekend or year . I shot the other stuff long enough that I like things that perfection is more common . |
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And quite frankly if you disagree thats your right and I will not loose sleep over it . Come on, my ass :nono: |
I am friends with a former GA State Ladies Skeet Champion, several times over. First time she and her husband tried sporting she shot something in the neighborhood of a 37/100. Her husband shot even less. He stomped away muttering that there were targets out there that could not be possibly broken with a shotgun. My buddy had just shot a 96 on the same course. They were badly embarrassed.
I've shot two 100 straights in my life, at sporting, numerous 99s and 98s. A young man just shot a 100/100 at Super Sporting at the "Turkey Shoot", at The Meadows in Forsyth, GA last weekend. He also shot a 50/50 on the competition 5 stand. This wasn't a charity shoot, but real tournament quality targets. There's a big difference in learning the lead on hundreds of presentations, and being able to put it there, and in memorizing it on a handful that are not over 21 yards. I've shot enough skeet and trap to appreciate the mental focus that is necessary to run long straights. It's not for me, it's boring, but at least I recognize them as legitimate clay target games. |
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We can agree to disagree on this, Craig. At the suggestion of a friend I had edited my original post, that you quoted, to be a bit more gentlemanly and less abrasive myself, but you copied it before I got a chance. Anyway, thanks for responding to my original post in a gentlemanly way.
Have a great day! |
:cool:Who really gives a rats ass? We're all SHOOTING and that's all that matters
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Everyone knows that real targets are box birds ;-)
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Austin, I shoot 7/8 oz 9'S all the time at skeet and most sporting clays targets. Unless they are out about 40 yards then I'll use 8's or 7 1/2, and that is only because im usually shooting a skeet gun with skeet chokes and 26" bbls
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Getting back on topic I'm in the same camp as Stan. I have no use for 9's but if they give you confidence, go for it. Although I've seen a number of targets dusted but not chipped with 9's, 8 1/2's and even 8's if the target is hit with the fringe of the pattern. Every time I see dust come off a target but not a chip I ask the shooter what shot size he is shooting. It's generally one of those 3 shot sizes combined with an open choke. |
I've shot box, hand thrown, and cannon birds. Actually, probably the toughest shotgun game out there right now might be Helice.
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Yes I did.
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#9 works very well on clays at skeet distances, especially presentations showing lots of belly or dome which is the weakest part of the target. I haven't used 9's on clays for years though as I usually carry 8s and 7 1/2s. I shoot 7 1/2s at targets that are edgy or have some distance (50+ yards). I also like them for woodcock. I'll use #10 shot for woodcock too especially in the first barrel.
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