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Tom King 06-15-2021 04:28 PM

Reloading
 
I am new here and have a couple of quest about reloading. I found some 71/2 chilled shot while cleaning my dads shop. He has been gone 14 years and I know the shot is older than 14 years. Would this shot still be good to use? Also what primers , shot and wads should I use for RST 2 1/2 inch 16 gauge hulls? I know these are rookie questions but thanks for the help in advance.

Tom King 06-15-2021 04:29 PM

Sorry I meant to ask what powder to use. Thanks

Dean Romig 06-15-2021 05:02 PM

I would suggest you go to the Alliant website and look up their recipes for their powder.
You can print it out and keep it handy at your reloading bench.





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Andrew Sacco 06-15-2021 05:09 PM

As for the shot I think you'll be fine if they aren't corroded. I'm not even sure lead "corrodes." I agree with Dean, I get my most useful, easy information from the powder manufacturers web sites.

Tom King 06-15-2021 05:27 PM

No corrosion, shot looks good. Thanks for the info.

Bobby Cash 06-15-2021 05:53 PM

I reload this for Skeet in a Cheddite / RST 2 1/2" hull

IMR SR 7625, 19.6gr
Ched. 209
BP/SPTG16

6,400 PSI 1,125

L to R, 1 oz, 7/8 oz, 3/4 oz
https://i.imgur.com/oUmyM4I.jpg

...or this

Hodgdon Universal 19.5
Ched. 209
BP/SPTG16
7,300 PSI 1,125

Tom King 06-15-2021 06:49 PM

Thank you Andrew. I really like the 3/4 and 7/8 in the 2 1/2 inch. Just shooting here at the house but they perform well.

Pete Lester 06-15-2021 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom King (Post 336738)
I am new here and have a couple of quest about reloading. I found some 71/2 chilled shot while cleaning my dads shop. He has been gone 14 years and I know the shot is older than 14 years. Would this shot still be good to use? Also what primers , shot and wads should I use for RST 2 1/2 inch 16 gauge hulls? I know these are rookie questions but thanks for the help in advance.

This is a tough time to start reloading as most reloading components are hard to find right now. You will have a very hard time find SR7625 powder as suggested because it has been discontinued and out of production for several years. There are other powders currently in production that will give good results. I have attached a spreadsheet from the "16 Gauge Forum" with many tested recipes including 2 1/2" loadings.

My favorite for the 2 1/2" 16ga Cheddite hull is; Cheddite 209 primer, 15.5 grains of Green Dot powder, Ballistic Products SG-16 wad and 3/4 ounce of shot. When tested it had a velocity of 1177 fps and developed 7400 psi. A good choice for composite barrel guns

john pulis 06-16-2021 08:51 AM

It is not a bad idea to invest in a small scale to weigh your powdered charges, they can vary. Better be safe than sorry with reloading.

Rick Losey 06-16-2021 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by john pulis (Post 336790)
It is not a bad idea to invest in a small scale to weigh your powdered charges, they can vary. Better be safe than sorry with reloading.

not a bad idea

its a great idea - it should be a requirement - i find very few bushings that throw the weight (they work on volume) listed. and how hard you work the press, if it has any vibration in its mounting all affect the charge

BTW - the 7625 powder is great but has not been made for several years, some of us were lucky enough to hoard some

Andrew Sacco 06-16-2021 09:52 AM

I seem to always use a bushing 2-3x larger than stated with my MEC600 after weighing. I always find that odd.

edgarspencer 06-17-2021 08:13 AM

I can't recall where I got it, but MEC published a chart of bushing sizes for many powders. Like most of the old, reliable loading manuals, it's been made obsolete because of many of the IMR powders no longer being available, and the addition of many new ones.

Bobby Cash 06-17-2021 11:06 AM

Here you go...

https://i.imgur.com/V8lxpBc.png

edgarspencer 06-17-2021 12:02 PM

Thanks Bobby, must be the newest version, as they’ve deleted PB and 7625.

Harold Lee Pickens 06-17-2021 03:47 PM

I usually look at the listed bushing in that chart, and then start with the next smallest to check the weight on my digital scale

Keith Doty 06-19-2021 02:23 PM

I have several bushings that started life small and I have turned on the lathe to get exactly what I need. Seems like factory bushings frequently don't throw the charge they claim. I ALWAYS weigh a few charges carefully when using a new/unknown bushing.

Daryl Corona 06-19-2021 08:35 PM

Buy a universal charge bar and you will never look back at those bushing days again.

edgarspencer 06-19-2021 08:55 PM

Good point, Daryl. If I could only find mine.
My gripe is the 3/4 oz bar only drops .70-.72 oz. I reamed one of mine.
With the limited supply of components, it’s not always possible to apply some tried and true recipes.

Daryl Corona 06-19-2021 10:15 PM

Quite a few people complain about the UCB but I have them on all my Mecs and I find they produce a very consistent load.

Especially in this time of limited availability of your preferred components the UCB has proven it's weight in gold for producing quality reloads.

Andrew Sacco 06-19-2021 10:27 PM

I like simple. I have found every bushing I need new quite easily on eBay. It’s also why I like single stage presses and separate components for stereo and manual transmission on my Porsche. Shoot. I must be getting old.

Daryl Corona 06-20-2021 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Sacco (Post 337047)
I like simple. I have found every bushing I need new quite easily on eBay. It’s also why I like single stage presses and separate components for stereo and manual transmission on my Porsche. Shoot. I must be getting old.

Not old Andy, just practical.

Paul Harm 06-21-2021 01:56 PM

SS presses - please. :banghead: The only one I have is for the 10ga because that's all I could fine for that gauge. I just hate pulling a handle 6 times for a shell. With my 9000H it's insert a shell and wad, push the foot petal down, release, and there's a shell. Don't get no simpler. :whistle:

I think back to the 70s when I first started reloading and you bought the charge bar for the amount of shot and the type of powder. No bushings. I didn't know anyone who ever weighed a powder drop. We just assumed it was correct. And no one ever blew up a gun from a bar throwing too much powder. Yes, I have digital scales and adjustable charge bars like a lot of us. My how times change. There is a Reloading forum here. Post your reloading questions over there for best results.

Andrew Sacco 06-21-2021 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl Corona (Post 337067)
Not old Andy, just practical.

I have never been accused of being practical either :corn:

john pulis 06-21-2021 07:07 PM

I still have a few of the old charge bars for powder and shot, no bushings. A lot more convenient now with bushings or a universal bar, but I still weigh every tenth reload. Makes me feel more secure.

Don Strelioff 06-22-2021 01:25 AM

I use mec 700’s with a adjustable charge bar and baffles I never have a issue with uneven charges . Works for me . When I load bismuth I way it

Leighton Stallones 06-25-2021 02:53 PM

PB IS A GOOD POWDER IF YOUR FATHER LEFT SOME. IT HAS ALSO BEEN DISCONTINUED AS 7625 HAS


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