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Milton C Starr 05-23-2021 05:06 AM

custom shell boxes for the 8 gauge
 
Heres a little project I have been thinking about , I have been kicking around the idea about getting some custom boxes to put my 8 gauge loads in . Took some rough measurements on what the dimensions would be for a 25rd box . I think what I came up with is 4.875x3.25x4.875 . I having playing around with different design ideas so far this is what I came up with .

Still got a bit of playing around with it and some other ideas .

Milton C Starr 05-23-2021 06:56 AM

Heres some other ideas I am working on, I think im leaning towards the white background on the red box .

Milton C Starr 05-23-2021 07:55 AM

Different variation .

David Holes 05-23-2021 08:46 AM

I always thought it would be neat to have a 2 piece box for 8 and 10 ga

Milton C Starr 05-23-2021 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by David Holes (Post 334910)
I always thought it would be neat to have a 2 piece box for 8 and 10 ga

You mean like the old styles ones where the shells are vertical like this ?
Thats was originally my idea but as a 15rd box, because a 25rd 8 gauge box will be huge.

David Holes 05-23-2021 09:19 AM

Yes that would be neat

Milton C Starr 05-23-2021 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by David Holes (Post 334914)
Yes that would be neat

Someone can make those it is basically just a miniature shoebox. I have seen also some people making reproduction vintage shotshell boxes.

With the boxes im looking at I can get 100 made for around $250 .

CraigThompson 05-23-2021 01:13 PM

I have an abundance of the white 10 gauge 3 1/2" boxes and I use them for the 8 gauge . They hold 21 or 22 forget which . Well I use boxes when I feel like boxing them up . In most situations I have plastic tub type things in the back of my truck filled with a specific load for this gauge or that gauge .

Milton C Starr 05-23-2021 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigThompson (Post 334930)
I have an abundance of the white 10 gauge 3 1/2" boxes and I use them for the 8 gauge . They hold 21 or 22 forget which . Well I use boxes when I feel like boxing them up . In most situations I have plastic tub type things in the back of my truck filled with a specific load for this gauge or that gauge .

Yeah its mostly just a aesthetics thing wanting to have some ammo boxes with 8 GA printed on them .

Milton C Starr 05-23-2021 05:38 PM

Ive been thinking of using the 8 gauge as a dedicated predator shotgun . I think it will pattern the larger shot sizes a bit better than the smaller bores .
So I whipped this up .

Dave Noreen 05-23-2021 06:24 PM

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Back in the day, Remington Arms - Union Metallic Cartridge Co. used dividers like a case of wine in their two-piece 8-gauge boxes.

Attachment 96254

Milton C Starr 05-23-2021 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 334950)
Back in the day, Remington Arms - Union Metallic Cartridge Co. used dividers like a case of wine in their two-piece 8-gauge boxes.

Attachment 96254

I remember seeing this style before at a auction .
Would you know when they dropped the No. headstamps and went to putting gauge instead ?

Here are some reproduction boxes I have seen .

charlie cleveland 05-23-2021 08:17 PM

I like your idea on making 8 ga shell boxes....the turkey on the front is looking good.... charlie

Milton C Starr 05-23-2021 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie cleveland (Post 334954)
I like your idea on making 8 ga shell boxes....the turkey on the front is looking good.... charlie

I may order about 10-15 boxes next week to see how I like them , Ive spent hours making minor adjustments here and there . I know I could just toss the shells in any container but having some purpose made boxes for them looks a bit more neat I think .

Milton C Starr 05-23-2021 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie cleveland (Post 334954)
I like your idea on making 8 ga shell boxes....the turkey on the front is looking good.... charlie

Heres what I ended up with .

John Dallas 05-23-2021 09:09 PM

This could turn into a Destry-like exercise

Milton C Starr 05-23-2021 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by John Dallas (Post 334962)
This could turn into a Destry-like exercise

I have bought ammo before from small boutique outfits and usually they dont put much effort into the packaging . So I figured I could come up with something better . I tried to find some good quality pictures of some Winchester 8 gauge boxes but came up with nothing . Which isnt a problem I can solve that pretty easily .

Bill Murphy 05-24-2021 12:17 PM

Milton, if you shorten the ears on the cat, it would look more like a stray house cat and your market would expand quite a bit.

Milton C Starr 05-24-2021 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 334993)
Milton, if you shorten the ears on the cat, it would look more like a stray house cat and your market would expand quite a bit.

Haha sounds like something my older brother would say .
I'm taking inspiration from vintage English and American shotshell boxes I've looked at . The English ones appear more like a business card almost where as the American ones are more stylized .


These are just for my personal use . I got some more changes to make when I get home . The 3d modeling doesn't work on phones .

Milton C Starr 05-24-2021 10:53 PM

Alright I think this is what I settled on for my turkey loads .

Craig Larter 05-25-2021 05:13 PM

Milton what software are u using to do the design?

Milton C Starr 05-25-2021 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Larter (Post 335084)
Milton what software are u using to do the design?

https://app.buyboxes.com/BBAppV3/dashboard/project/Gift

Put in the measurements you want and then create a blank project and it will 3d model a box based on your measurements . you can important your own logos and designs as well . For the pictures I added to the boxes like the turkey, I used a app that removes backgrounds from pictures then another app to upscale it .

The price scales based on how many order, I just plan on ordering 15 first and see how I like them and if I want to make further changes . Im kind of torn because I like the minimalist approach I see on English shotshell boxes but I also appreciate the art and style on the American ones . So I guess im trying to blend those two things together .

Stan Hoover 05-25-2021 05:36 PM

8 Gauge Ammo Box
 
If someone were to put some 8 Gauge boxes together, I would definitely have interest.

I think 2 piece boxes are cool, but I would be interested in any.

Stan Hoover

Milton C Starr 05-25-2021 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan Hoover (Post 335086)
If someone were to put some 8 Gauge boxes together, I would definitely have interest.

I think 2 piece boxes are cool, but I would be interested in any.

Stan Hoover

Im trying to decide on the top if I like it with the 2 smaller turkeys or a cleaner look .

Milton C Starr 05-25-2021 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Hoover (Post 335086)
If someone were to put some 8 Gauge boxes together, I would definitely have interest.

I think 2 piece boxes are cool, but I would be interested in any.

Stan Hoover

I seen someone who makes those style boxes but they wouldnt do custom odd sizes . The length and Width I come up with for 25 8 gauge shells is 4 7/8s x 4 7/8s which works out perfectly since this app rounds off by 1/8" increments .

Im sure If I kept search I could find someone who makes them .

Stan Hoover 05-25-2021 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Milton C Starr (Post 335088)
I seen someone who makes those style boxes but they wouldnt do custom odd sizes . The length and Width I come up with for 25 8 gauge shells is 4 7/8s x 4 7/8s which works out perfectly since this app rounds off by 1/8" increments .

Im sure If I kept search I could find someone who makes them .

Milton,

would some boxes with turkey and some with geese be an idea?

I don't know if both on the same box would be appropriate?

Stan Hoover

Milton C Starr 05-25-2021 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan Hoover (Post 335091)
Milton,

would some boxes with turkey and some with geese be an idea?

I don't know if both on the same box would be appropriate?

Stan Hoover

I did have a idea of doing a box with geese on it perhaps marked bismuth .
The thing I find interesting about turkey loads is what we called turkey loads today would have been great goose shells 100+ years ago,heavy payloads larger shot sizes etc . If the 1918 migratory bird laws and the leadshot ban didnt happen I think a box with geese and turkey on it would probably have been common .

I have been trying to find a decent picture of a goose to use .

charlie cleveland 05-25-2021 06:42 PM

those boxes look great to me put me down for about 5 boxes if you get them made.....charlie

Milton C Starr 05-25-2021 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Hoover (Post 335091)
Milton,

would some boxes with turkey and some with geese be an idea?

I don't know if both on the same box would be appropriate?

Stan Hoover

Heres my first try at a goose box .

Milton C Starr 05-25-2021 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie cleveland (Post 335094)
those boxes look great to me put me down for about 5 boxes if you get them made.....charlie

For sure Charlie, I figure they will make some interesting conversation pieces as well . As well it will let me stack my 8 gauge rounds neatly and with a bit of style .

Stan Hoover 05-25-2021 06:55 PM

That's nice,
May I go out on a limb and ask if it could be more like a picture with background (lake etc)?

I'm ignorant, I have no idea how you're program works:corn:

Milton C Starr 05-25-2021 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Hoover (Post 335098)
That's nice,
May I go out on a limb and ask if it could be more like a picture with background (lake etc)?

I'm ignorant, I have no idea how you're program works:corn:

If I can figure out a way for it not to remove those details . Now I could add the picture without the background remover and see what it looks like .

Milton C Starr 05-25-2021 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Hoover (Post 335098)
That's nice,
May I go out on a limb and ask if it could be more like a picture with background (lake etc)?

I'm ignorant, I have no idea how you're program works:corn:

Something like this ?

Stan Hoover 05-25-2021 07:26 PM

That is very nice, I like it very much.

Milton C Starr 05-25-2021 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Hoover (Post 335101)
That is very nice, I like it very much.

I think this might be my favorite yet, the boxes arent expensive depending on how many are ordered the more bought at a time the lower it is per box .
I could see why these smaller ammo companies dont use more stylized boxes it would add a few dollars more per box . Although if a company was selling 25rd boxes of 8 gauge ammo it would probably cost around $75 per box so another $2-$3 wouldnt really matter in my opinion .

charlie cleveland 05-25-2021 10:28 PM

nice geese box I think this is the best box yet...charlie

Milton C Starr 05-25-2021 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie cleveland (Post 335112)
nice geese box I think this is the best box yet...charlie

Thanks Charlie Ive been tinkering with it for hours haha .
I plan on ordering some Thursday, out of curiosity im tinkering with the RST 10 gauge boxes a little bit as well . Im constantly making micro adjustments here and there .

Heres the RST 10 ga box I was playing with .

David Noble 05-26-2021 12:47 AM

I would be in for ten of the 8ga boxes if you decide to work up a group buy. I like the geese and lake theme very much but would still be happy with a different design if need be.
I'm not too sure about you using the RST logo on the 10ga boxes though, they might not like that.
Thanks, and keep us posted on this!

Milton C Starr 05-26-2021 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Noble (Post 335116)
I would be in for ten of the 8ga boxes if you decide to work up a group buy. I like the geese and lake theme very much but would still be happy with a different design if need be.
I'm not too sure about you using the RST logo on the 10ga boxes though, they might not like that.
Thanks, and keep us posted on this!

I wasnt planning on doing anything with the RST boxes I was just wondering how they might look with a bit more art on them .

I may order 20-25 boxes of the 8 gauge , it says it would be $194 for 25 boxes or $7.74 per box. It would be cheaper to order 100 boxes then it would be $2.99 per box . But I figure order around 20 or so at first and see how they look in person and if they need more changes etc .

I got the goose box done so now im working on a turkey one .

Milton C Starr 05-26-2021 12:58 AM

So far got this much done on the turkey one .

I cleaned up some of the lines on the goose box and think its good to go for now .


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