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Jim Beilke 02-24-2021 09:40 PM

Lightweight Repro
 
Anyone know if any of the 20ga Parker Repros weighed close to 6lbs. Most I have seen weighed 61/2-63/4lbs.

Bill Murphy 02-25-2021 08:28 AM

Never heard of one. If you had one with stock problems, you could mill out the middle of the stock which was done on some English guns. You could also trade up to a 28 gauge.

Brian Dudley 02-25-2021 09:05 AM

Nearly all, if not all, of the repro stocks were hollowed out in the butt end. And the center of the ssbp was a glued on piece of wood. I personally think that they feel a little better with some weight added to the butt.
And most of the wood used on them was pretty lightweight to start with. And given the standardization and consistency of manufacture of the parts, I would think that the lightest 20g option would be whatever a 26” barreled gun normally weighs. One should not expect variation of more than a few ounces from gun to gun. With the only variation actually being the particular piece of wood used.

Andrew Sacco 02-25-2021 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Dudley (Post 327077)
Nearly all, if not all, of the repro stocks were hollowed out in the butt end. And the center of the ssbp was a glued on piece of wood. I personally think that they feel a little better with some weight added to the butt.
And most of the wood used on them was pretty lightweight to start with. And given the standardization and consistency of manufacture of the parts, I would think that the lightest 20g option would be whatever a 26” barreled gun normally weighs. One should not expect variation of more than a few ounces from gun to gun. With the only variation actually being the particular piece of wood used.

The big question is the consensus that they carry and feel and swing nicely or not? I know weight is a subjective thing.

Dean Romig 02-25-2021 11:31 AM

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Yes, they carry well and swing well, but after I bought a couple of Repro's in 28 gauge the 20 rarely came out of the gun room, except for the occasional round of Skeet... but even that ended because one of my 28's is Skeet configured with Q1 & Q2 chokes.


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Andrew Sacco 02-25-2021 12:05 PM

Dean I have a 28 repro and thinking of getting another because I love it so much, and affording an original is getting out of hand. I wish I could find a double trigger one, if such a thing exists, however.

Brian Dudley 02-25-2021 12:11 PM

It is the general consensus that the 28g. is the best proportioned and handling of the Repros. The 20g and 12g. can certainly be slightly muzzle heavy especially in the longer barrel lengths.

John Dallas 02-25-2021 12:37 PM

Is there an explanation for the heavier weight of Repos compared with similar originals? Denser wood? Thicker barrels? My understanding is that when Remington attempted their "Repro" they had to modify the safety design to meet modern SAMMI standards

Dean Romig 02-25-2021 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Sacco (Post 327096)
Dean I have a 28 repro and thinking of getting another because I love it so much, and affording an original is getting out of hand. I wish I could find a double trigger one, if such a thing exists, however.



They do exist Andy but they're hard to find.





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Ken Hill 02-25-2021 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Sacco (Post 327096)
Dean I have a 28 repro and thinking of getting another because I love it so much, and affording an original is getting out of hand. I wish I could find a double trigger one, if such a thing exists, however.

Yes they do exist and I looked about 3 years to find one with 28" barrels. The chokes are a little tight in the 28" barrels. Finding one with DTs, 28" barrels, and a straight grip is very hard.

Ken

Gary Laudermilch 02-25-2021 03:08 PM

Andy, you may want to look at lot 49A on the estate auction listed under the for sale topic.

Richard Flanders 03-05-2021 10:07 PM

"Finding one with DTs, 28" barrels, and a straight grip is very hard."

Not so hard if you look at my only 28ga Repro. DT, SG, SFE 2-bbl set. S/N 28-1. I like the 28 better than I liked the 20's I had. The 20's seemed to kick like a 10ga.

Dean Romig 03-05-2021 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard Flanders (Post 327986)
The 20's seemed to kick like a 10ga.


Maybe that’s why they made the Repro 20’s unusually heavy - to help minimize recoil.





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Bill Murphy 03-06-2021 06:32 AM

Richard, "28-1"? The first 28 gauge?

Gary Laudermilch 03-06-2021 07:46 AM

Interesting - people's perception of recoil. I've shot several 28's that weighed around the 6# mark and thought the recoil was significant. On the other hand I have 3 20's that I can shoot all day with 7/8 oz loads with no recoil objections. Technically, the free recoil on the 20 is greater but it sure does not seem that way to me.

Brett Hoop 03-06-2021 09:27 AM

Gary

I don’t have a Reproduction 20, but do hunt a 20ga Parker most days for grouse and woodcock, it being a cut barrel amalgamation of several Parkers to arrive at my ideal. It draws comments from even my dear friends not to mention any names, but Dean upon seeing it asked “how many Parkers is this”? It works for me because it allows me the confidence to kill grouse. It left Meriden as a 28” 28ga. And that configuration is how I use it with the Setter once we return home from the grouse covers and play with pheasants. 6lbs 9oz. as a 28ga and 6 lbs 8oz with the perfect length 26 3/4” 20ga barrels. It handles differently to my mind even with those very minor differences. My mind and it’s workings have been questioned often.

I do want to try a Reproduction 28ga. Having handled but a few my friends have given me limited opportunities to handle. I have read all the reports and some say too whippy too light weight, but I need to satisfy this in my mind.

Anyone, see a capped grip, double trigger, splinter or BT , 28ga needing a new home. Please let me know. I keep up with most of the sale sites, but have yet to see the right gun at the same time I have money.

Richard Flanders 03-06-2021 09:29 AM

Bill: not the first overall; just the first NSFL gun, in a run of 500, I think.

Harry Neil 03-13-2021 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Dudley (Post 327097)
It is the general consensus that the 28g. is the best proportioned and handling of the Repros. The 20g and 12g. can certainly be slightly muzzle heavy especially in the longer barrel lengths.

From experience, my thoughts are the 16gauge barrels on the 20 Gauge Repro frame are close to perfect. The balance is much better than with the 20’s.

Brian Dudley 03-13-2021 03:02 PM

I added some weight to the butt of my 20g to help with felt recoil.

Bob Jurewicz 03-17-2021 02:58 PM

I just received the 20 GA two barrel set I bought from the Invaluable-Gallery 95 Auction. Both barrel sets are 26". The gun weighs a surprising light 6lb 3 oz with each barrel set.
Bob Jurewicz

Gerry Addison 03-18-2021 06:32 AM

The chokes in the 28" barrels M and F are crazy tight (can't remember the exact constrictions) and useless to me. If I wanted to shoot one of these I'd have to have it opened up. I've never seen a 28" set of 28 gauge barrels with something other than modified and full chokes.

Dean Romig 03-18-2021 07:04 AM

We’ve seen that same complaint several times here Gerry. Have them opened to a constriction of your choice.






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