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Kirk Potter 02-01-2021 10:22 PM

GHE 28GA Skeet
 
Anyone else see this on GunBroker? Factory? If so, wow..

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/889488575

Kirk Potter 02-01-2021 10:26 PM

Oh, and no reserve.

Dean Romig 02-01-2021 10:47 PM

Man, that is a dandy! Oh, If it only had a straight grip.....





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Jim DiSpagno 02-01-2021 10:48 PM

Except for butt stock configuration and front bead, matches the book

Dean Romig 02-01-2021 10:59 PM

The red ivory (Lyman) front bead was an option when this gun was made though I don’t know if the style shown was available at that time.

My 28 gauge VHE Skeet gun, I’m told, originally came with a red ivory front bead but as I understand it the previous owner didn’t like it so he replaced it with a white ivory bead. Wish I had the red one that came with the gun originally.





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Brian Dudley 02-02-2021 06:31 AM

Same seller as the 28g and 20g that were discussed at length here recently.

Bill Murphy 02-02-2021 08:30 AM

Yup.

Reggie Bishop 02-02-2021 08:38 AM

That will make the wife a nice Valentine's Day present since it ends on 2-14.

Bill Murphy 02-02-2021 08:41 AM

Reggie, he's right next door to you in Kentucky. It would make a nice road trip for the weekend.

Brian Dudley 02-02-2021 08:41 AM

Maybe he will answer questions in person...

Reggie Bishop 02-02-2021 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 324220)
Reggie, he's right next door to you in Kentucky. It would make a nice road trip for the weekend.

Great idea!

Randy G Roberts 02-02-2021 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 324220)
Reggie, he's right next door to you in Kentucky. It would make a nice road trip for the weekend.


3 hour trip for me so not out of the question. Meet you there Reggie :)

Chad Hefflinger 02-02-2021 08:55 AM

I threw out a bid on it just so I could someday tell the story of how I got out bid on a graded 28 gauge skeet gun, only missed it by 10 or 15 thousand:rotf:

Reggie Bishop 02-02-2021 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy G Roberts (Post 324227)
3 hour trip for me so not out of the question. Meet you there Reggie :)

You ain't driving 3 hours to look at a 26" barreled Parker!

Randy G Roberts 02-02-2021 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Reggie Bishop (Post 324236)
You ain't driving 3 hours to look at a 26" barreled Parker!

Geez I must be an easy read cause you are 100% correct.

Paul Ehlers 02-02-2021 10:12 AM

This is one heck of a nice gun!

I do question a few items like the wood finish is exceptionally free from scratches, dents & other defects when the gun has obviously been shot some by the looks of the breech face on the action & slight scratches on the barrel finishes. The top lever is left of center which I find a little concerning on a gun this clean. The trigger plate screws finish doesn't match the rest of the metal finish & then there's the Bradley type front sight that is more model-21'ish than Parker like. I sure would like to see a PGCA letter on this one!

Overall it's a really nice gun that will attract a lot of flies to this pot of honey!! Good luck guy's it's out of my league! I wonder where the over-under bets would be placed? Will it go over or under the 20K mark?:corn:

Reggie Bishop 02-02-2021 10:18 AM

Over

Mills Morrison 02-02-2021 10:48 AM

What the heck . . . Under

Jim DiSpagno 02-02-2021 10:53 AM

Under

John Bastiani 02-02-2021 11:09 AM

Is the case and barrel bluing original? If so- Does anybody want to take a guess on the percentage of case on the action and barrel blue? Also: Isn't the front sight an easy fix if you wanted to change to the traditional white bead.

Reggie Bishop 02-02-2021 11:21 AM

I was so off on the GHE 20 that sold I am afraid to comment on the originality of this one! I will say the choke markings are correct for a Remington skeet gun. So how many GHE 28 gauge skeet guns are out there?

Dean Romig 02-02-2021 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ehlers (Post 324242)
This is one heck of a nice gun!

I do question a few items like the wood finish is exceptionally free from scratches, dents & other defects when the gun has obviously been shot some by the looks of the breech face on the action & slight scratches on the barrel finishes. The top lever is left of center which I find a little concerning on a gun this clean. The trigger plate screws finish doesn't match the rest of the metal finish & then there's the Bradley type front sight that is more model-21'ish than Parker like. I sure would like to see a PGCA letter on this one!

Overall it's a really nice gun that will attract a lot of flies to this pot of honey!! Good luck guy's it's out of my league! I wonder where the over-under bets would be placed? Will it go over or under the 20K mark?:corn:


Well over $20K IMO.





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Bill Murphy 02-02-2021 01:19 PM

I suspect that there are more "Skeet In and Skeet Out" marked Parkers that did not come from the factory that way than did come from the factory that way. Of course, this is probably one of the real ones. It is just a few numbers away from a known skeet gun. The high bidder has probably already put in a real high bid. Of course, we should continue to nip at his heels.

Reggie Bishop 02-02-2021 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 324285)
I suspect that there are more "Skeet In and Skeet Out" marked Parkers that did not come from the factory that way than did come from the factory that way. Of course, this is probably one of the real ones. It is just a few numbers away from a known skeet gun. The high bidder has probably already put in a real high bid. Of course, we should continue to nip at his heels.

And those "fake" ones, generally speaking, are fairly easy to spot because the skeet markings just don't look like original factory skeet markings. I think this one is genuine.

Robert Brooks 02-02-2021 01:49 PM

I got 20 ga GHE straight grip, long beavertail, sst Hawkins pad, 26 inch barrels, open chokes 2369xx that is not marked skeet in and out and guess it may be a skeet gun. Bobby

Dean Romig 02-02-2021 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Brooks (Post 324291)
I got 20 ga GHE straight grip, long beavertail, sst Hawkins pad, 26 inch barrels, open chokes 2369xx that is not marked skeet in and out and guess it may be a skeet gun. Bobby

Do you have a research letter on yours Robert?
My 28 fauge VHE is not marked with Skwwt choke markings but my research letters, both from Chuck Bishop and from Bob Beach confirm it is a “Skeet gun.” Yours may too. Mine is 236912 .





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Reggie Bishop 02-02-2021 03:47 PM

I have 237230 & 239380, both marked "skeet in" "skeet out".

Bill Murphy 02-02-2021 04:11 PM

Dean, what information did Chuck and Bob provide that gave you information that your gun is a skeet gun?

Bob Jurewicz 02-02-2021 05:16 PM

In Picture #65 of the listing it appears that the right ejector trip rod in receiver is broken off.
Am I correct? If so, is this a difficult repair?
Bob Jurewicz

Brian Dudley 02-02-2021 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Jurewicz (Post 324324)
In Picture #65 of the listing it appears that the right ejector trip rod in receiver is broken off.
Am I correct? If so, is this a difficult repair?
Bob Jurewicz

Not broken off, just one barrel is fired (see the tripped firing pin at the breech).
The other barrel is cocked.

Dean Romig 02-02-2021 05:49 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 324320)
Dean, what information did Chuck and Bob provide that gave you information that your gun is a skeet gun?



These documents.


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John Dallas 02-02-2021 08:36 PM

Beach's letter describes it as a Skeet Grade. The Grade thing is interesting.

The Cody letter on my M21 2 barrel set is described as "Skeet Grade", and it was differentiated by features such as the larger Hessian forend. The 26"barrels are IC/Mod, and the 30's are F/M. Both sets are chambered for 3"shells. Hardly a gun for skeet

Dean Romig 02-02-2021 08:42 PM

Notice that on Bob's letter, a representation of the A&F records, lists the chokes as "Skeet 1 & Skeet 2" but especially the A&F handwritten record of "Parker Skeet Guns" lists the chokes as #1 & #2.

The chokes are actually .008" of constriction in the left barrel and .015" constriction in the right barrel. (Reversed chokes for Skeet guns was the practice then.)





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Dean Romig 02-02-2021 08:54 PM

Incidentally, I noticed the grip cap on the subject gun has been reinstalled backward which we all know neither Parker Bros. nor Remington would have done, nor allowed out the door like that, so I guess the stock may have been at least stripped and refinished.....





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Bill Murphy 02-03-2021 06:55 AM

Dean, thanks for the great information.

Kevin McCormack 02-03-2021 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dallas (Post 324348)
Beach's letter describes it as a Skeet Grade. The Grade thing is interesting.

The Cody letter on my M21 2 barrel set is described as "Skeet Grade", and it was differentiated by features such as the larger Hessian forend. The 26"barrels are IC/Mod, and the 30's are F/M. Both sets are chambered for 3"shells. Hardly a gun for skeet

Is the gun marked "SKEET" on the floorplate?

Robert Brooks 02-03-2021 09:55 AM

No research letter yet need to get one. Thanks Bobby

John Dallas 02-03-2021 10:37 AM

Kevin - No. The worksheet and the Cody letter both call it a skeet grade and it has all of the features associated with the skeet grade. I'm guessing they forgot to stamp it

John Bastiani 02-03-2021 09:40 PM

Parker gHE 28ga
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 324353)
Incidentally, I noticed the grip cap on the subject gun has been reinstalled backward which we all know neither Parker Bros. nor Remington would have done, nor allowed out the door like that, so I guess the stock may have been at least stripped and refinished.....




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The records show that this gun was originally stocked with a straight stock from the factory. If the grip cap is installed backwards is this even a factory Parker stock?

Dean Romig 02-03-2021 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Bastiani (Post 324506)
The records show that this gun was originally stocked with a straight stock from the factory. If the grip cap is installed backwards is this even a factory Parker stock?


I think the jury's still on that regard John. The wood is appropriate for a Remington era Grade 2 but maybe a bit over the top in figure. Generally speaking the super nice figure on the lower grades didn't start appearing regularly until after the move to Ilion. To my mind the borders don't have that perfect concave mullering we might expect to see on a 1935 Meriden produced Parker but there was more than one person doing the checkering and each had his or her own style.





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