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What are the odds? Poor #169257...
Their is a gun for sale on GB that immediately intrigued me, a 36" 10 gauge #3frame D3 DH that would make a dandy bookend to my 36" 8 gauge D3 DH...BUT:eek:the muzzle photos looked a bit suspect...check THE BOOK, it seems that this gun started life as the only listed 38" 10 gauge D3 DH...now that was a gun..I guess Ill just hold on to my 36" D2 GH, no upgrade today...gun collecting like baseball is a "game of inches":crying:
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Too bad Don! What an acquisition THAT would have been! I feel your pain...
Found it. That's the S/N. Here's the GB auction # if anyone wants to look at it. 207928209 |
still a good find even wih the short 36 inch barrels...i wouldown this gun if my pocket book was bigger..... charlie
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What are the chances the Serialization book is wrong about the original barrel length? I to thought the muzzles were suspect but I find it hard to be 100% certain when judging from pictures rather than a gun in the hand. If they have been cut it is a crying shame.
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Ya, If the book is right it's a real shame. But if the price is right it would be one hell-of-a gun. Those muzzles are suspect but we have seen guns leave the factory clipped to fill an order.Trouble is I just don't know....
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You just have to have the gun in hand. However, a factory letter may prove that the order book specifies a 36" gun and maybe the stock book was misread when the serialization book was put together. More pictures, more use of the micrometer, PGCA letter.
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Don, what's the serial #.
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Mark, It's at the top of the thread 169257
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Thanks for getting into this, Mark. The fellow doesn't seem to want to deal in PGCA letters. I asked for a scan of the letter on the 14 gauge and that I was very interested. He replied "There is no letter.".
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He states in his text about the above gun that he ordered a letter.Maybe it's not in hand yet.
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The vendor believes they were cut.
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If there is the usual unmatted area at the muzzle end of the rib, it makes one wonder why the vendor believes they were cut. :vconfused:
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Jent, What do you mean by "Box"?
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Jent, it would be the LENGTH of the chokes that would determine whether they are original but I forgot you are an expert...maybe Parker cut them or rebarrelled them after 1919, maybe someone faked them, maybe the Book is wrong, maybe...they look cut to me but what do I know...I'm not an expert...
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I'm at a loss as to what anyone sees that would cause them to say the "muzzles are suspect". From what I can see the upper and lower keels are in place and the barrels are touching and from what Jent says, the top rib has a "box" where the matting has ended. Aside from measuring the length of the chokes which could always tell a different story it looks uncut from where I sit.
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Could you use the barrel weight to help in this case also ? Two inches of barrel have to weigh aliitle bit . I dont know if they included the ribs in that or not. But if someone cut two inches off them I think they would have to relay the ribs to get them that close. But what do I know. If the barrels have been honed would that not change the choke length ?
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I have a 16ga VH that was sent back to the factory two months after it was bought to have 2" clipped off the barrels and at the same time ordered a set of 32" twist barrels in 20ga for the same gun. The barrels were cut and no "box" just matting to the end of the barrels, a lyman site was also added. Never say never when it comes to Parkers!
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The barrels may have been a replacement set?
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