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Phillip Carr 07-24-2020 10:38 AM

Q1 and Q2 chokes.
 
How common are Reproduction 20 gauges with just one set of 26” barrels choked Q1 and Q2 ?

Greg Baehman 07-24-2020 11:02 AM

In my observations they are not as common as IC/M, but they are far from rare. My best guesstimate is for every 20-ga. 26" Q1/Q2 Repro you find you'll find ten 20-ga. 26" Repros choked IC/M.

Gary Laudermilch 07-24-2020 11:56 AM

Uncommon or not, they are wonderful.

Harry Neil 07-24-2020 01:32 PM

How about the Krieghoff 16 gauge barrels? The one I have is Q1/Q2

James Rhodenizer 07-24-2020 02:15 PM

Q1 and Q2 are in my opinion the perfect chokes for the hunting that I do. In both 20 and 28ga.

Harold Lee Pickens 07-24-2020 04:12 PM

I thought the Kreighoff barrels (16) came in only M/F.

Harry Neil 07-24-2020 04:34 PM

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Bob Jurewicz 07-24-2020 06:13 PM

The 16 GA Kreighoff barrels came in M/F, Ic/M and QI/QII.
All were 28"
Bob Jurewicz

Harold Lee Pickens 07-24-2020 06:52 PM

Thanks Bob. A friend of mine bought one of the Win. Repro BHE' 20's when they first came out. It was to be his grouse gun. Beautiful, but when I asked him why he ordered M/F for grouse hunting, he took it to Ken Eyester in Ohio and had the chokes opened up. He later ordered a set of Krieghoff 16 ga barrels also M/f. Again I asked, why the tight chokes and he said he was planning on having it opened up--hell, guess he could have ordered it that way in the first place. But, my friend always does things bassakward.

Harry Neil 07-24-2020 09:27 PM

At one time many of the serious competition shotgun people would only consider Ken Eyester for choke work...They said their guns were being "Eyesterized"..

You told him what you wanted, at what distance, what shell you would be using, and you got back what you wanted...

Dean Romig 07-24-2020 09:46 PM

Today the same can be said of Mike Orlen in Amherst MA.





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Harry Neil 07-24-2020 10:04 PM

No doubt Mr Orlen has a good reputation...Especially with choke tubes.

However, in the day when fixed choke guns were the norm, Ken Eyester had a cult following. He honed the barrel and shot, honed some more and shot, added up percentages at the stated distance..And repeated the process until he consistently arrived at the desired result with that particular shell...

Addition: With choke tubes Ken only had three....He patterned one of each for....close-medium-far....

Frank Srebro 07-25-2020 07:34 AM

EZ to say that Gunsmith Tom, Dick or Harry is the "equal" of the late Ken Eyster if you haven’t spent 2 days watching Kenny in his shop while he tuned your bores and chokes for his #'s 1 - 2 - 3 patterns by checking POI, efficiencies, coverage and yield with multiple shots and followup lathe or Sunnen hone work. Nor if you haven’t shot one of his Eysterized guns. Nowadays many a gent sends his barrels to Gunsmith X,Y or Z and asks for IC or whatever choke(s), the barrels are returned quickly and then he shoots a few clays and pronounces the man's work is awesome, etc.

Harry Neil 07-25-2020 07:48 AM

If you wanted a competition choke from Ken Eyester, the choking started at the forcing cones, traveled down the barrel and then the choke was shaped according to what worked.
And the gun was most likely shot over and over until he consistently got it right. He tuned forcing cones, bores and the choke and didn't just work on the actual choke.

You wanted a POI 6 inches high with a flat rib perception, he made it happen. You wanted it 3 inches high, he made it happen...

Thanks for the reminder they were 1-2-3...

Gerry Addison 08-02-2020 07:01 AM

If you want to have a fun day make an appointment with Ken Eyster's son Jim and take your gun and the shells you want to shoot and have him work on your chokes. As others have said you shoot it, take it to the bench and slowly move the pattern where you want it to be and open it to the desired pattern. Man learned from the best and a super nice man to work with.


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