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CraigThompson 07-11-2020 02:18 PM

10’s
 
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Started late last week on some 10 gauge stuff . Mostly light target/dove/quail loads . Red Dot 18.6 grains and 1 1/8 ounces of shot . Done about 275 with #8 shot another 260 with #7 1/2 and I’ll load 100 more Monday with #9’s to give me 250+ of them . Also loaded the handful of RST/Chedditte 10 gauge hulls I had as well as about a dozen 10 gauge with an x10x has seal instead of the SP-10 wad and enough card wads to get the 730 grain slug crimped to suit me , pushing these with SR7625.

John Dallas 07-11-2020 05:41 PM

I don't shoot well enough to differentiate between 7 1/2, 8 or 9
My target loads (skeet or clays), are all 1oz 7 1/2. How can 9's break more skeet targets?

Austin J Hawthorne Jr. 07-11-2020 06:07 PM

Perhaps with a little more density around the patterns fringe if the target is not well centered???

CraigThompson 07-11-2020 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by John Dallas (Post 306799)
I don't shoot well enough to differentiate between 7 1/2, 8 or 9
My target loads (skeet or clays), are all 1oz 7 1/2. How can 9's break more skeet targets?

This is more of using components than anything else . Years ago I was very particular about shot size , after I quit competing #8 was the do all . But now I’ve gotten a pile of shot from estates of friends no longer with us etc . So if ya got it why not use it .

charlie cleveland 07-11-2020 10:27 PM

hope you got a lite 10 ga for those quail hunts...back in the late 1800 s the 10 ga was the preferred quail gun...ive hunted doves with my 10 ga s a few times wish I would have had your no 9 loads... charlie

CraigThompson 07-11-2020 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie cleveland (Post 306809)
hope you got a lite 10 ga for those quail hunts...back in the late 1800 s the 10 ga was the preferred quail gun...ive hunted doves with my 10 ga s a few times wish I would have had your no 9 loads... charlie

I have an EH 28” and a Grade 0 top lever 26” that would do okay for dove/quail should the need arise . But I expect the little VH 28 and perhaps the VHE 20 will get the call .

James Halvorson 07-13-2020 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie cleveland (Post 306809)
hope you got a lite 10 ga for those quail hunts...back in the late 1800 s the 10 ga was the preferred quail gun...ive hunted doves with my 10 ga s a few times wish I would have had your no 9 loads... charlie

How much heft would be considered light for a 10 ga?

CraigThompson 07-13-2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by James Halvorson (Post 306933)
How much heft would be considered light for a 10 ga?

I think my W&C Scott crystal indicator gun is 8 or less . It feels light after hefting most of my others although my EH on the 2 frame with 28 inch barrels isn't what I'd call heavy .

charlie cleveland 07-13-2020 05:02 PM

I too would consider any 10 ga under 8 lbs is a lite gun in my book....but a 9 1/4 lb 10 ga don't feel heavy the way a parker is balanced....charlie

Daniel Carter 07-13-2020 05:23 PM

Charlie, I have one 9 lbs. even and it balances in a way that it seems light until it's not between the hands so to speak. Every one who handles it says the same thing, that it handles like a much lighter gun. I tell them '' quality shows in many ways''.

CraigThompson 07-13-2020 07:25 PM

I’ve got a friend that has an early early Westley Richards 10 gauge hammergun that feels like a 16 gauge . Think that gun was made in the late 1860’s .

Bill Murphy 07-14-2020 06:44 AM

My 27" DH Damascus ten weighs seven pounds four ounces. My Krupp barrel 26" Sauer weighs six pounds four ounces. Somehow, the Sauer has perfectly acceptable wall thickness.

charlie cleveland 07-14-2020 11:31 PM

sounds like bill has the perfect bird gun..how is this gun choked bill... and where did you come up on this light weight 10.....charlie

Milton C Starr 07-15-2020 01:10 PM

Ive seen a few sub 8lb 10 gauges before .
Heres a 7lb Parker 10 gauge https://www.gunbroker.com/item/868437572
Would be interesting to see the letter on that one .

I read on another forum a fellow had a English 10 gauge that was 7lbs he used for quail.


Charlie ill dig it up later but I also seen a 7lb double 4 bore :shock:

7lbs 13 oz double 4 bore pigeon gun https://www.theexplora.com/harris-ho...ve-pigeon-gun/

charlie cleveland 07-15-2020 07:06 PM

this 10 ga for sale would be a good piece in any body s collection...and that 4 bore is an awesome gun...if there were still plenty of quail around my neck of the woods and I was younger I would be interested in this light 10 ga...now bill s 6 lb 10 ga really got my attention...charlie

Milton C Starr 07-15-2020 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie cleveland (Post 307155)
this 10 ga for sale would be a good piece in any body s collection...and that 4 bore is an awesome gun...if there were still plenty of quail around my neck of the woods and I was younger I would be interested in this light 10 ga...now bill s 6 lb 10 ga really got my attention...charlie

Kind of odd it has cyl/cyl bores with 32" barrels if they are uncut which they claim to be . Charlie im surprised no one has made a titanium frame double gun with the or a titanium barreled one . A timascus double would be a thing to look at .

Parkers did make a #1 frame 10 ga I wonder what the weight on that thing was if anyone knows ?

Bill Murphy 07-21-2020 05:55 PM

I have an order copy for the #1 frame ten gauge, but it is buried right now. A search would probably uncover it on this forum. As I recall, the order did not mention weight.

Bill Murphy 07-26-2020 06:16 PM

Milton, I don't see where the gunbroker ten was listed at 7 pounds. Did you read something that you did not really see?

Milton C Starr 07-26-2020 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 308002)
Milton, I don't see where the gunbroker ten was listed at 7 pounds. Did you read something that you did not really see?

Last picture shows 7lbs , he has some English made 10s in that range also .
I think that may be the lightest 2 frame 10 he has . The other ones I think are in the 8.5lb range .

CraigThompson 07-27-2020 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Milton C Starr (Post 308010)
Last picture shows 7lbs , he has some English made 10s in that range also .
I think that may be the lightest 2 frame 10 he has . The other ones I think are in the 8.5lb range .

Actually it isn’t 7 pounds that’s 7 pounds 2 1/2 ounces . Granted that’s not a great amount over 7 pounds but it isn’t 7 pounds it’s more .

Milton C Starr 07-27-2020 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CraigThompson (Post 308031)
Actually it isn’t 7 pounds that’s 7 pounds 2 1/2 ounces . Granted that’s not a great amount over 7 pounds but it isn’t 7 pounds it’s more .

True but I figured it was close enough but I know when carrying it in the field a few ounces may make a big difference to someone .

I think that Parkers has 32" barrels so if it was 30" it would probably break even at 7lbs . It being lighter than the other 2 frame 10s listed I suppose it has thinner barrels than the others one ?

Bill Murphy 07-27-2020 10:52 AM

Milton, I hope, as a friend, you are not considering purchasing the 7 pound Parker. That is one poor excuse for a $2000 Parker. $200 would be closer to its real value.

Dean Romig 07-27-2020 10:59 AM

I agree completely with Bill. That gun has so many flaws if it were mine I would pay somebody to take it away....





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Dean Romig 07-27-2020 11:47 AM

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Talk about a few extra ounces... This is my set of 30" ten gauge 2-frame Damascus barrels ( 57043 ) that I fitted to my 2-frame DH ( 90739 ).

I hope you can easily read the pre-struck weight of these barrels.... it is 5 lbs., 11 oz. and the gun balances almost 3 inches forward of the hinge pin.

The original 30" 12 ga. set of Titanic barrels are 4, 2 and the 30" 12 ga. set of Damascus barrels I had Russ Bickel fit to it are stamped 4, 1.


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