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Kirk Potter 07-07-2020 08:55 AM

Factory Beavertail?
 
Cabelas has a very late Remington era 20 gauge DHE. It looks to fit all the specs of a skeet gun, but Cabelas has the chokes listed as MOD/FULL. # 241779

Wondering if the forend looks factory to you guys?

https://www.cabelas.com/product/Park...Ga/2811357.uts

Randy G Roberts 07-07-2020 09:27 AM

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Kirk here's a pic of one that's right for comparison. Looks right to me. You might inquire about the presence of the reinforcing rod as well as the reinforced lug for further confirmation.

Jack Cronkhite 07-09-2020 12:09 PM

The serial number on original wood is located under the fore end iron. Only way I know to be sure. As a caveat I have only examined splinter fore ends not beavertails. Maybe others have seen the sn on a beaver tail forend. http://parkerguns.org/forums/attachm...9&d=1555099893

Brian Dudley 07-09-2020 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Cronkhite (Post 306629)
The serial number on original wood is located under the fore end iron. Only way I know to be sure. As a caveat I have only examined splinter fore ends not beavertails. Maybe others have seen the sn on a beaver tail forend. http://parkerguns.org/forums/attachm...9&d=1555099893



Not if it is an ejector gun.

Dave Noreen 07-09-2020 01:35 PM

The link in the original post only gets me to Cabelas, not the gun in question.

Dean Romig 07-09-2020 02:19 PM

The stamped serial number on ejector guns is under the forend iron. I have also seen it stamped there on later extractor guns.





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Jack Cronkhite 07-09-2020 03:09 PM

Google can find the gun but when you go there it is same as OP link. Suggests to me it has been sold and removed from the website. [IMG]http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...ictureid=12792[/IMG]

Pete Lester 07-09-2020 03:12 PM

Here is the gun. https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/100438922

FWIW it lacks the double ivory beads. Ask for a picture of the barrel flats and the forend lug for starters.

Bob Jurewicz 07-09-2020 03:43 PM

At $9700 I couldn't get away from that gun fast enough!
Bob Jurewicz

Dave Noreen 07-09-2020 04:36 PM

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FWIW it lacks the double ivory beads.
But it does have those two lovely plug screws in the rib!!

Kirk Potter 07-09-2020 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Jurewicz (Post 306647)
At $9700 I couldn't get away from that gun fast enough!
Bob Jurewicz

It appears they’ve added it back with an extra $3,000 added to the price..

Phil Yearout 07-10-2020 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 306650)
But it does have those two lovely plug screws in the rib!!

Yeah; why? Sight? Scope :eek:?

Dave Noreen 07-10-2020 10:28 AM

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Could it have had one of these?

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Attachment 85945

I think these usually had four screws.

Bob Jurewicz 07-10-2020 10:33 AM

Dave,
That would be my guess. I had a 20GA DHE 32" restore by DelGrego with the same issue. The screw holes were fill and engraving was restored. I was always unhappy with that imperfection.
Bob Jurewicz

Jack Cronkhite 07-10-2020 04:15 PM

An original ejector splinter forend with serial number and a replacement ejector splinter forend without serial number. For the money being asked I would want to see the number on both the beavertail and the butt stock. I assume Parker Bros stamped the number in the beavertail as well. Anybody got one with iron removed to show the number? Cheers Jack

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...ictureid=12793

Bill Murphy 07-10-2020 04:43 PM

I have a skeet configured 20 gauge VHE with similar holes. Maybe I should go for a pair. Bob, did Del Grego fix your holes or did someone else do it?

Bob Jurewicz 07-10-2020 05:06 PM

Bill,
I assume DelGrego did it as part of the restoration.
Bob Jurewicz

Bob Jurewicz 07-10-2020 06:05 PM

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Picture of the repaired Site Holes.
Where are the two repaired holes (this is a test)?
Bob Jurewicz

Dean Romig 07-10-2020 09:59 PM

I found them both.





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Brian Dudley 07-11-2020 04:40 PM

To be clear about ejector forends and serial numbers.

When they are serial number stamped, they are matked in the location that Jack showed a picture of above (in the inletting where the mainsprings are).
But, I have observed MANY completely original ejector forends that are not stamped at all. In fact, more that were not than ones that were. And sometimes when there are nunbers in that location, it is not the complete number.

In fact I would say that both forends that Jack has in that photos are original. Just one is stamped and one is not.

Other ways to try to authenticate ejector forends is that sometimes the impression of the serial number from the latch and banjo tip are left in the wood. Also on later guns (from the 30s and 40s), the grade number is stamped in the inletting for the latch (in the front round portion). Ie: a large “3” on a D grade.

Gary Bodrato 07-17-2020 04:41 AM

Kirk is right, that Parker has been on GI for maybe 8 months or more and the price was in the $6k range. They probably got tired of getting 3-4k range offers. Without even thinking of a restoration you have oil soaked wood and a potential popped dolls head that need attention

Dean Romig 07-17-2020 07:00 AM

To me that doll’s head appears perfect in every way. Those screws are there where there was a Nydar sight installed at one time.





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Gary Bodrato 07-17-2020 06:38 PM

You are correct on the two screws, I may have shot past the photo of the full rib, but they must have drilled out the short rib screw and replaced it, because that screw is right where the dolls head rib screw should be


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