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Garry L Gordon 06-23-2020 10:57 AM

Production Numbers: GH 20s with Damascus Barrels
 
In scouting recent ads for Parker guns, I have come across two GH 20 gauge guns that have Damascus barrels -- one of 26 inches (1901), the other 28 inches (1920). In checking TPS table, I see their *projections* have only three 20 gauge GH offerings, two at 27 inches, and the other at 31. I've done a cursory search of the forum, thinking I'd seen a thread recently on 20 gauge Damascus barrels, but could not find it.

The two guns I noted both have what seem to be original length barrels that appear to have keels and rib matting with a definitive end before the barrel ends.

I'm curious what others think about the number of GH Damascus 20s. Anyone have one of the odd length guns? Why such small production numbers (there are 210 PH 20s projected with composite barrels, for comparison)? Are the odd length barrel notations perhaps a typographical error in the printing?

Any thoughts?

Dean Romig 06-23-2020 11:23 AM

I have a DH 20 gauge with 28” Damascus barrels and a beautiful orphaned set of 28” Damascus barrels but I don’t know the grade this set is from. I’ll check to see if they’re from a grade 2, 3 or 4. And if I don’t have it recorded on my laptop I’ll check when I get back home in a week.





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Garry L Gordon 06-23-2020 12:06 PM

Thanks, Dean.

Kirk Potter 06-23-2020 12:17 PM

Actual #s

24” - 1
26” - 145
27” - 3
28” - 244
30” - 49
31” - 1
32” - 3

Dean Romig 06-23-2020 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirk Potter (Post 305593)
Actual #s

24” - 1
26” - 145
27” - 3
28” - 244
30” - 49
31” - 1
32” - 3


Kirk - are they all grade-2 guns?





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Kirk Potter 06-23-2020 01:09 PM

Yes.

I had these written down from another thread when I had been looking at a Damascus GH a few months ago. I believe they’re also on The Parker Story errata.

Dean Romig 06-23-2020 01:15 PM

Okay, I found the number of the orphaned set of 20 gauge Damascus barrels...... 73264 ... but I don’t have my serialization book with me. What grade is it please ???





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ED J, MORGAN 06-23-2020 01:28 PM

73264 not in ser. book

Dave Noreen 06-23-2020 01:37 PM

Here we go again. Errata Sheet Version 3, 6/6/01 gives us
"Page 279, Table at lower left -- "GRADE 2 HAMMERLESS GUNS WITH DAMASCUS STEEL BARRELS" -- The column with statistics for the 20 gauge is incorrect. A total of 446 hammerless doubles of 20-gauge were made with barrel lengths as follows: (length/count) - (32/3), (31/1), (30/49), (28/244), (26/145), (24/1). These changes will effect the totals in various summary tables."

Garry L Gordon 06-23-2020 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 305602)
Here we go again. Errata Sheet Version 3, 6/6/01 gives us
"Page 279, Table at lower left -- "GRADE 2 HAMMERLESS GUNS WITH DAMASCUS STEEL BARRELS" -- The column with statistics for the 20 gauge is incorrect. A total of 446 hammerless doubles of 20-gauge were made with barrel lengths as follows: (length/count) - (32/3), (31/1), (30/49), (28/244), (26/145), (24/1). These changes will effect the totals in various summary tables."

Thanks so much gentlemen for taking the time to answer (even though this is obviously covering old ground). My copy of TPS has no errata sheet.

Daryl Corona 06-23-2020 02:55 PM

Garry;
Would you mind posting the prices you saw on the GH damascus guns and where you saw them?

Dave Noreen 06-23-2020 04:01 PM

I pulled the thread wherte I posted the errata sheets to the top.

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22506

Garry L Gordon 06-23-2020 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daryl Corona (Post 305609)
Garry;
Would you mind posting the prices you saw on the GH damascus guns and where you saw them?

Daryl, The 1901 GH is priced at $5795 (Vintage Firearms), and the 1920 gun sold for $7800 (with buyer's premium) at Morphy's most recent sale.

I hope all is well with you.

Garry L Gordon 06-23-2020 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 305615)
I pulled the thread wherte I posted the errata sheets to the top.

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22506

Thank you, Dave!

Mark Ray 06-23-2020 07:07 PM

I own one of the 28” 20 bore grade 2 damascus guns...it has become one of my faves.

Daryl Corona 06-24-2020 05:03 AM

Thanks for the prices Garry. I was curious as I also have a GHE 20 with 28" damascus tubes.

All is as well as can be expected Garry, hope you and yours are doing well.

Don Strelioff 06-29-2020 12:39 AM

I have a 1919 GH 20 ga 26” Damascus bbl gun .

Garry L Gordon 06-29-2020 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Strelioff (Post 305934)
I have a 1919 GH 20 ga 26” Damascus bbl gun .

Thanks, Don. These later Damascus 20s, with the new design features, are really special in my opinion. I hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine.

Don Strelioff 06-29-2020 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon (Post 305939)
Thanks, Don. These later Damascus 20s, with the new design features, are really special in my opinion. I hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine.

I enjoy it very much and I shoot it very well , comes up fast and swings smoothly. I have never owned any sxs this petite . Considering the small numbers made and it’s age to find this gun in Saskatchewan Canada is a rarity.


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