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Richard Flanders 06-21-2020 11:48 AM

Interesting and gorgeous Ithaca Flues
 
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Found this 1918 grade 4 Flues on the WLM site for sale. Just thought folks might like to see what Ithaca was capable of back then. This gun is gorgeous! I've never seen a nicer Flues and had no idea they ever made guns this nice. How did they get the case colors on this gun to look like sunlight????

MARK KIRCHER 06-21-2020 12:38 PM

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A few pics of my 1909 McGraw engraved 4E Flues. Same checkering and with gold triggers as above. Truly beautiful art/wormanship.

Rick Losey 06-21-2020 12:39 PM

The graded Ithaca guns had some of the best engraving of the times

The guns themselves are IMHO greatly under appreciated. I grew up near there and they were often in the used racks at bargain prices

I have had a few, still have a Super 10 and just finished redoing a grade 1 Flues 20 which I shot for the first time a couple days ago. It handled very nicely

Dave Noreen 06-21-2020 12:53 PM

Both wonderful examples of Ithaca's work. I'd say the second gun looks much more Ed Laytham to me. William McGraw would have been 16 at the time that gun was made. He first came to work at Ithaca Gun Co. at age 14 and became a full time employee at age 17. I really like the engraving on the pre-1915 Ithacas, but I don't find their profile/style particularly pleasing.

Richard Flanders 06-21-2020 12:59 PM

Gorgeous gun Mark! I did see one gorgeous leather-cased damascus Ithaca 2-bbl set S/S some yrs ago that a friend in Missoula had inherited from his father. It was absolutely stunning. He ended up auctioning it off for small money. I was very tempted and should have bought it from him.

John Dallas 06-21-2020 01:14 PM

Mark - What is the Damascus style? Beautiful guns both

MARK KIRCHER 06-21-2020 01:43 PM

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John
The Barrels have been called Amercan Flag bunting and Etoli by those much more knowledgeable than myself. There is further discussion on this gun and its history on the below thread for those interested.

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=21127

I cam across it quite by accident with the purchase of a 28 ga DH (with bent barrels) The DH is long gone but I have not let go of this one.

Garry L Gordon 06-21-2020 01:54 PM

Ithaca wood often seems to be a notch higher per grade than its competitors, and the early engraving was exceptional. I have always appreciated the thin frame on those early Flues models -- nice, lightweight guns.

Drew Hause 06-21-2020 02:55 PM

Ithaca called the pattern "American Flag" (no bunting)

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../409894739.jpg

Walt Snyder's Crass 4E

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../342319658.jpg

Remington's "Etoile 3 B.P." had finer "stars"

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../303255759.jpg

Drew Hause 06-21-2020 04:35 PM

Mark's Flues however has a "Washington" pattern - note within the 'scrolls' are not crosses/stars but small rectangles

This is a Parker

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../317324708.jpg

Remington called the pattern Washington N 3 B.P.

The lopins; the bottom row No. 1 is American Flag and No. 3 is Washington

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../412652502.jpg

Garry L Gordon 06-21-2020 05:15 PM

To me...amazing work!

Brian Dudley 06-21-2020 05:18 PM

On the original gun posted about, That curled return on the “loy’esque” line engraving is very different, and attractive. Behind the breech balls. Beautiful.

Harold Lee Pickens 06-21-2020 05:44 PM

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Truly beautiful. Mark, I love the floor plate engraving on yours. My 4E NID 16, not near as nice, pheasant on one side, ducks on the other, and just scroll on the bottom.

charlie cleveland 06-21-2020 09:19 PM

the beauty of it all.....charlie

Kevin McCormack 06-22-2020 11:05 AM

I looked at a 7E 32" double trap over the weekend that was magnificent.

Harold Lee Pickens 06-22-2020 11:13 AM

32in barrels, you could social distance with that gun

charlie cleveland 06-22-2020 12:49 PM

these guns are remarkable....charlie

Tom Hawkins 06-22-2020 01:23 PM

Flues 16 Grade 3
 
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I like this era of flues for the damascus, wood, and engraving. They tend to have more drop which I need. This gun has 30" tubes and is easy to look at and throws great patterns.

todd allen 06-23-2020 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MARK KIRCHER (Post 305417)
A few pics of my 1909 McGraw engraved 4E Flues. Same checkering and with gold triggers as above. Truly beautiful art/wormanship.

Wow! That is some absolutely stunning engraving!

Chris Robenalt 06-28-2020 01:43 PM

I've held that gun Richard, when I was at the Moores. It's as sweet as it looks. I have a little 20 like Marks, same year, along with 4 other Flues of different grades in 12ga that have beautiful color along with excellent engraving. The Flues is my favorite of the Ithacas.


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