28 ga choke
 

If you had to pick one choke for a 28 ga, primarily for grouse hunting, what would you chose. One barrel, not two. Skeet, IC, or Mod?

Thank you,

JDG

Mod

Me too - Mod.





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So Dean and Daryl, would you be using a M&F barrel, or IC & Mod?

Your particular situation will tell you what you need. Mine is very short range, 18-25 yards and IC is enough. Later in the year i go to the 20 or 16 but Oct finds the shots close and after 30 yards very obscured. Early on i used to much gun and to much choke and never was heavily burdened going home. When woodcock are around the first shell is a spreader and it works on grouse as well.

M/F, 7 1/2's. That's what works in both of my 28's.

I have a VHE skeet gun with 28 inch barrels that I like very much.

My long shot choice would be Mod (with no second shot possible) and close shots of course, would be IC with Mod as a second shot after missing with the first.... or if I were ever again to be presented with a true double.





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Too many variables to consider, but I've killed a lot of grouse with my Dickson 28 that is choked near cylinder and light full. I shoot 8s early in the season, and 7 1/2s later.

Having stated this, I would not argue much with any of the suggestions you've gotten, and I'm sure they are all based on great experience.

Thanks for the feedback (so far). I’m looking for a 70’s era 28 ga Rem 1100LW. I’ve found several choked mod but guns choked Skeet or IC are harder to find. I will say that I grew up shooting a 20 ga Wingmaster with a 26” barrel choked IC and I have never had a problem hitting things with it.

Right now I think I’ll try to find one choked IC and if I can’t find one then I’ll settle for a modified barrel.

If you like the gun buy it--you will have a hard time finding more open choked one. My best friend will often carry his first gun---given to him by his father, an 1148 Rem 28 ga with a Full choke. We have scoured gun shows for years trying to find an IC barrel to no avail .
To answer your question, I would prefer IC in a single barrel.

Buy it... Mike Orlen can give it any choke you want. But remember - you can’t put metal back once it’s removed.





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Good luck with your search Jay. Most of the truly smallbore shotguns, 28 and .410, were choked tight from the factory. My suggestion would be to buy the gun with the Mod barrel then take it out and pattern it at 20 yards. You might be surprised at what you see. You can always load a spreader type load as your first shot followed up by standard 3/4oz. loads.

At one time I had an 1148 28 skeet gun. It was a great gun but it rattled like a rock in a wash tub. I sold it and never looked back. A friend has an Remington 1100 LW 28 sporting clays model with choke tubes. If your looking for an auto loader this might fill the need.

The old 1100’s are much nicer guns than the new 1100 “Sporting” guns in terms of fit and finish. I’ve handled a number of the new ones and I have not been impressed. I am determined to get one from the 70’s with the mahagony wood and deep, rich bluing. There really isn’t any comparison between the old and the new.

JDG

The owner of this has had it at least 20 years and he bought it used . Light quick handling. I've used it for rabbits and some bird hunting.

I believe the 28 "Sporting" guns were introduced in the early-mid 90's and are still available in the new and used markets. Remington first introduced the 1100LW in 28 in 1969 and those early 1100LW's (I consider pre-1980) were very well made. I'm definitely looking for one made pre-1980, the earlier, the better.

I have an old 870 28ga Wingmaster VR etc that is bored modified. I’ve killed many roosters with it when all I had time for was a short run on a gravel road with a dog. It either folded them or missed them clean. You might be able to find one of those. A little slower for a second shot on grouse but they are measurably lighter to carry than the 1100. I think that they have 25” barrel.

Owned both 28 and 410 Wingmaster 870LW's and sold them both. The 28 was nice but I really wanted an 1100LW My 20 ga Wingmaster 870LW is made on the same frame as the 28 and 410 were made and I've made a lot of meat with it.

For several years I shot almost exclusively my 12-gauge Rem. 1100 or 28-gauge Rem. 1100 "Sporting” model, before I sold both so as to shoot exclusively the vintage side-by-sides. I really liked shooting both of them, on the course or in the field, but I was ready to make the move to using the collectables.

The 12-gauge 1100 never failed me, but the 28-gauge needed factory repairs three different times.

My totally-non-professional impression was that the 1100 mechanism was a great design in the 12-gauge but did not adapt well when “miniaturized” in 28-gauge.

The only other owner of a 28-gauge 1100 I ever talked with told me he had the same experience with his: liked shooting it; had repeated break-downs, and eventually sold it. (I do not know if his was one of the newer “Sporting” models like mine, or if it was one of the earlier guns.)

A friend of mine has an older one that I fell in love with so I bought one. Sold it to a friend to help finance the acquisition of a double (can't remember which one) and I started regretting it almost immediately.

While I owned it, I shot it quite a but. It was a great gun for early season grouse when the woods was thick and shots had to be quick. It was also fun for clays and skeet, but as Rich mentioned in a previous post, it was loud when it cycled and would kick hulls across a parking lot. I never had a problem with it cycling or any other mechanical problems. All I can say is the gun was fun to shoot and carried easily afield.

I was there when he bought it in fact I lent him the $600 so I know it's over 20 years old and probably closer to 30 as I was still shooting the winter skeet league. I haven't done that in close to 30 years. It's a nice gun.....for an autoloader:shock:

Rich, what were the interest terms on that $600 loan?

BTW, thanks Jay for the heads up on that skeet barrel for an 1148. I texted the info to my buddy while we were both turkey hunting Thursday, he called the guy immeadiately and bought it. He was real excited about it.
I had mentioned in an earlier post of this thread that it might be hard to find the exact configuration wanted in the 1100LW 28 ga so maybe he should buy it. As an example, I mentioned a friend who has been looking for an open choked 28ga 1148 barrel for years. Jay pm'ed me with the where abouts of an 1187 skeet barrel with a vent rib. I think you should ask for a seller's commission on it.
just another example of the benefits of belonging to the PGCA.

You are welcome Harold. Happy it worked out.

Best,

Jay

Harold I can use it anytime I want and if he ever sells it I have first right of refusal at the original purchase price.