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PHE 10ga 36"
I'm looking for specialized advice on the desirability of PHE 10ga 3 frame 36" Parker Steel barrels, letters as such, little used. I'd appreciate the comments of those who collect and use the big guns.
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That is a rather rare gun. The Parker Story does not show a P 10 with 36" barrels.
It was probably in one of the missing books. |
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Jeff's statement as "rather rare" is an understatement ! I can speak as a former PHE 28 bore , 24" original barrel length ,2 frame as maybe the only . Your PHE ,10 bore , 3 FRAME, 34" barrels might be the only. Missing books? Can not be proved either way. Allan |
Correction ---36"Barrels-----even more rare !!!
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A rare PHE 10ga with a vent rib just sold on this site with an asking price of 9750.
I purchased a very nice CH 10ga 34" (one of 3 I believe) for half the price of the PHE. I bought a D hammer gun 10ga 36 inch (1 of 3) for less than 5k. I would say plenty of interest in a PHE 10/36 from big gun collectors. Condition will be the most significant factor, my guess is a 3K premium over a 10ga PHE 10/32 gun of equal condition. Just my guess. |
To Craig - yes
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Thanks for posting the letter, how about pictures of the gun?? Very cool.
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Somebody just got a visit from Ed McMahon
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Thanks, I will work on standard photos, but it is pretty much standard, either clean and crisp as a whistle or refinished a while ago as commented.
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I had a 36” GHE 10g (fluid steel) in the shop maybe 6 years ago.
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In the mid 1990’s while researching material for The Parker Story the late Charlie Price and I were in a gun shop in Texas (not Chadicks) and the owner showed us a GH 16 gauge with 40” barrels. It was well used but not abused, probably as a duck and goose gun, but all original. It was not for sale. He owned several Parkers along with many other guns. It was in a missing stock book. 😊
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I believe the GHE 10 that Mr Dudley references is the one I own. No records of this GHE
(missing book). No 10 gauge GHE’s with 36” fluid steel ejector barrels listed in the records. Soon to be listed in the members area. |
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I think I remember this gun from Vegas a few years ago. PML |
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I should have known........ PML |
Yes Patrick that is the one.
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I bought a vhe 36" 12 ga off this website about 3 yrs ago.
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Bill Mullins, the 40" 16 gauge G grade came out of Shenandoah Guns in Berryville, VA. Judging from the time it was there, decades ago, it probably came from the General Billy Mitchell estate, which the shop was selling off at the time. If it was in fact the same gun, the barrels were Vulcan steel. Ben Toxvard would not sell me the gun, but a few years later, he relented and sold me his Curtis try gun, which was owned by Colonel Townsend Whelen.
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Interesting reading, you guys obviously have a lot of fun and are living right!
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I suppose thirty years ago Jerry Amos told my pop about a 16 gauge Parker at Clark Brothers that was 34 or 36 inches . They had called Jerry to see if he wanted it the gun was never made available to the public in the shop and after he turned it down it was sent to Terrell Texas the following day .
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Craig, the comment about my try gun being previously owned by Colonel Whelen, was meant to mean that the gun was used by stockmakers at Parker-Whelen in Washington, D.C., not to imply that Colonel Whelen had any ownership at Shenendoah Guns. Colonel Whelen's gunsmith moved to Berryville when Parker-Whelen closed and brought the try gun with him and apparently did some work for Ben Toxvard, who ended up owning the try gun.
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Ben always referred to the gunsmith who brought the try gun to his shop as "the old man up on the mountain". The old man lived behind the shop "up on the mountain". I know the supposed man he refers to, an ex gunsmith from Parker-Whelen, but I won't name him because I'm not 100% sure. Now that Michael Petrov and Ben Toxvard are both gone, I have no one to ask.
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Bill, sad to have the old timers go. I once met an old German gunsmith through a close friend. He told the story of when John Browning came to him and they worked most of the night getting the bugs out of the new A5 action. You never will forget those special conversations, I think that is why I enjoy being a part of this organization, good folks. Appreciating Parkers and others like say a 71 Winchester and the story of how Keith and Whelen and others worked to persuade Winchester to build one more lever gun, just classic stuff from the masters and we are the benefactors of their wisdom.
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I have a 16ga hammer gun with 38" twist barrels, with lightning cuts letters as such. they are out there just have to find them, Gary
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Can we see it? Thanks
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I had to check my 34" 16 ga O frame--no lightening cuts on it. Still so disappointed that it is in such bad shape, Had hoped to take it to the Southern or Hausmann's to get some more feedback/opinions.
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I will try to photo a few pictures of it, have not had good luck with photos lately, Gary
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16ga 38"
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A couple photos, they are not real good
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lovely long barrels...bet shesbad on doves....charlie
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