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Randy G Roberts 02-04-2020 07:21 PM

Parker Chokes:How Tight Did They Come
 
Yesterday evening I was measuring a Parker 12 bore hammerless gun that had a constriction of .045 in the left tube, .027 in the right. The .045 is way tighter that any other 12 bore Parker I have. Next in line would be a .039/.039. Then Brian listed and sold a really nice Lefever that had chokes of .045 and .046 which got me to thinking. I am sure Parkers choked as such are out there but I don't recall any with both barrels that tight. Just out of curiosity what are your tightest choked 12 bore Parkers, how tight did they get ?

Craig Larter 02-04-2020 07:27 PM

My 10 gauge 34" CH is choked .042/.041, that's my tightest Parker, I own a Super Fox that is choked .049/.049.

Randy G Roberts 02-04-2020 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Larter (Post 292521)
My 10 gauge 34" CH is choked .042/.041, that's my tightest Parker, I own a Super Fox that is choked .049/.049.

.049 in both barrels. That's shoppin in the Mens Department. Nice !

Frank Cronin 02-04-2020 07:47 PM

Parker GH 12 gauge .039 / .039

The gun with the tightest choke that I have is a LC Smith Ideal 10 gauge with Damascus barrels. .022 / .050

Jerry Harlow 02-04-2020 08:10 PM

PARKER VH mfg. 1903

R = .042
L = .040

Tightest one I have with both barrels full.

Randy G Roberts 02-04-2020 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry Harlow (Post 292525)
PARKER VH mfg. 1903

R = .042
L = .040

Tightest one I have with both barrels full.

Nice. What length are the barrels?

Dean Romig 02-04-2020 08:58 PM

I had a GH number 235908 with .043” and .044” but sold it about a year ago before I could even try it out on turkeys.

Shoulda kept it....





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Jerry Harlow 02-04-2020 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy G Roberts (Post 292527)
Nice. What length are the barrels?

30"

Michael Moffa 02-04-2020 09:19 PM

DHE 30" .039/.044, Choked Dead and Buried.

John Dallas 02-04-2020 10:00 PM

Fox Sterly .044 in each barrels

Bill Murphy 02-05-2020 04:31 AM

Randy, the amount of constriction doesn't mean much as far as the original configuration goes. The bore diameter could have been changed over the years. What is the bore diameter of your tightly choked gun?

Pete Lester 02-05-2020 05:30 AM

I think it's interesting and good to know what a gun's choke constriction is but my determination for how tight a gun shoots comes from pattern testing, a 30" circle at 40 yards. The amount of constriction gives a good idea what a gun should do but I have been surprised by some of my results on a pattern board. Examples; Remington 1900 12ga, .014 and .024 patterned 72% and 86%. Lefever F grade 10ga, .003 and .018, patterned 53% and 85%.

Randy G Roberts 02-05-2020 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 292533)
Randy, the amount of constriction doesn't mean much as far as the original configuration goes. The bore diameter could have been changed over the years. What is the bore diameter of your tightly choked gun?

Agreed and I get that. Having said that I have measured both bores at .735 on this gun.

Rick Losey 02-05-2020 10:13 AM

to the original Parker question, for me it's .039 in both in a 12ga 3 frame 32" V grade -

anything I have that's tighter than .045 isn't a 12ga Parker

Randy G Roberts 02-05-2020 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Losey (Post 292555)
to the original Parker question, for me it's .039 in both in a 12ga 3 frame 32" V grade -

anything I have that's tighter than .045 isn't a 12ga Parker

Me to Rick as I have a gun with .039 in both barrels.

Garry L Gordon 02-05-2020 11:00 AM

I have a 1912 vintage VHE with the left barrel choke constriction of .049. Both barrels measure .732. I'm pretty sure this is an original gun, and it matches the letter. I've not patterned it, but I can tell you it reaches out with that left barrel and will kill a pheasant stone dead at 45+ yards (and will miss them entirely at 20 yards when I'm not on them!).

charlie cleveland 02-05-2020 11:11 AM

i have not measured my lc smith long range gun but it will pattern 92 percent out of the left barrel and 85 percent out of the right barrel...thats at 40 yards 30 inch circle... i remember on here that a few people had parker guns with over 50 thousands choke...charlie

Jerry Harlow 02-05-2020 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry Harlow (Post 292525)
PARKER VH mfg. 1903

R = .042
L = .040

Tightest one I have with both barrels full.

This 30" gun has a bore of .730, so unaltered.

Rich Anderson 02-05-2020 11:18 AM

My BHE live bird gun is .049 in both barrels which are 30 inches.

Randy G Roberts 02-05-2020 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Anderson (Post 292568)
My BHE live bird gun is .049 in both barrels which are 30 inches.

Oh my. I would love to have chokes such as those in a gun some day just to play with. :eek:

James L. Martin 02-05-2020 11:53 AM

I have a 12ga GH with left barrel bore of .740 with a choke of .044 and right with .739 and .023 . Letter says it was shipped with mod and full. It is untouched as far as I can tell.

Bill Murphy 02-05-2020 06:23 PM

Rich, what is your bore diameter on the .049 gun? James, what is the serial number of your gun?

James L. Martin 02-05-2020 06:42 PM

Bill its 178595 and it's VH not a GH I mixed it up with another and it has 28" barrels on a 1 frame.

Reggie Bishop 02-05-2020 07:06 PM

Barnett currently has a Super Fox choked ,047/051:shock:

Randy G Roberts 02-05-2020 07:46 PM

I am hoping to take this gun of mine turkey hunting this spring. What a combination with .027 in the right barrel when they get a little tight on you, and the .045 in the left barrel for the longer shot. It ought to be a good combination.

Bill Murphy 02-06-2020 07:34 AM

James, the serial number of your gun would indicate that it's a bit late for .740 bores. That size of bore was normally seen on guns made before the turn of the century. Most, I say most, 12 gauge guns in your serial number range were bored at about .729 to .732. Your gun may have been "cleaned up" a bit over the years.

Rich Anderson 02-06-2020 09:27 AM

Bill I have no idea of the bore diameter. The gun is listed for sale with Steve Barnett.

James L. Martin 02-06-2020 10:00 AM

Bill I agree but it sure shows no sign of being cleaned up and the right barrel being .023 is what the letter says, mod.

Randy G Roberts 02-06-2020 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James L. Martin (Post 292669)
Bill I agree but it sure shows no sign of being cleaned up and the right barrel being .023 is what the letter says, mod.

James does the letter say "mod" or does it possibly offer a pellet count that you have extrapolated to be a "mod" ?

James L. Martin 02-06-2020 10:36 AM

The letter says " The requested chokes were RH modified, LH full " . No pellet counts.

Eric Eis 02-06-2020 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 292655)
James, the serial number of your gun would indicate that it's a bit late for .740 bores. That size of bore was normally seen on guns made before the turn of the century. Most, I say most, 12 gauge guns in your serial number range were bored at about .729 to .732. Your gun may have been "cleaned up" a bit over the years.

Remember folks, Parker never wasted old parts, (fishtail levers) so you cannot say a gun has been honed without seeing the gun.....As Bill knows well "you can never say never with a Parker"

Dean Romig 02-06-2020 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James L. Martin (Post 292675)
The letter says " The requested chokes were RH modified, LH full " . No pellet counts.

Pellet counts were more often written on the hang tag for the gun and 99.9% of hang tags no longer exist.





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JasonPeck 02-18-2020 10:22 PM

Super-Fox 32" 12ga .050/.050

Jeff Sweeter 02-25-2020 12:44 PM

Parker V 36" made in 1915.
Right barrel measures .736 with .043 constriction
Left barrel measures .737 with .044 constriction
I haven't patterned anything in this gun yet,but it's hard on tall mallards with 1 1/4 oz.bismuth.


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