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American Arms Boston side swinger
Ive been seeing quite a few of these for sale but have never seen anyone talk about them . Seems they had a graded system as well , didnt see any information come up when I googled them .
Is anyone here familiar with them ? I like reading about the less known American sxs makers . Looks like it would awkward to carry in the field since you cant break it open and carry it over your arm like a tradition sxs . |
Sure you can, the gun just has to be sideways.
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Im guessing theres not much of a collectors market for these . |
They are more of a curiosity and something that collectors would want who are interested in the different american makers at the time of early breechloading development.
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Are there pictures we can see somewhere?
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or https://www.gunbroker.com/item/844981635 there are a couple more as well https://p1.gunbroker.com/pics/844980...x213447856.jpg |
There was a good article on George H. Fox's American Arms Co. in The American Rifleman, April 1970. There was an article on some of the George H. Fox side-swing hammer doubles by William Furnish and James A. Nelson in the Winter 1994, The Double Gun Journal. I have a reproduction American Arms Co. catalog, offered years ago by Dr. William Paul Smith's PRP Americana, from I believe the late 1870s. It calls the gun the Model of 1877. It shows the gun made in 12- and 10-gauge in 11 grades from $50 to $300. Their 12-gauges were said to be chambered for 2 5/8 inch shells, and their 10-gauges for 2 3/4 inch shells. They also offered heavy 12-gauges built on the 10-gauge frame, chambered for 3-inch shells.
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No idea where I found these; it appears that the prices had fallen compared to Dave's catalog
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Slightly different price list in the catalog I have a copy of --
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In addition to the George H. Fox side-swing double, American Arms Co. made "Saturday night specials", side cocker single barrel and double barrel shotguns and finally a Whitmore designed hammerless double.
Attachment 79969 Attachment 79970 Attachment 79971 Copper rivet probably not factory!! |
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I do enjoy seeing these old catalogs of the various lesser known American makers that was around that time period . |
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In 1893 there was a possibility of the company moving to Milwaukee, Wis.
Attachment 79999 but it apparently never happened. All through the 1890s American Arms Co. was moving to Bluffton, Alabama. Attachment 80000 They had property and a building there, but much of the machinery and parts inventory was still in Boston when George H. Fox died in 1901. Most of it was sold to Marlin by November 1901. Some entity continued to pay the taxes on the Bluffton, Alabama, property until 1915. |
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Those are great looking guns. I’ll bet these are the Fox guns T.R. was referring to when he reportedly stated “the finest shotgun in the world”. :cool:
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yeah it's that or his F grade AH Fox :corn: |
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Ansley was using "The Finest Gun in the World" well before he made a gun for T.R.
Attachment 80054 What T.R. actually said was "no better gun was ever made." Attachment 80055 Attachment 80056 |
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