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keavin nelson 01-12-2020 10:41 AM

A Fox question for you!
 
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Since everyone seems to be asleep on the Fox site, thought I would post this here!!!!:)

This is an early Phil Arms Fox. The gap between barrel extension and action slot would appear to be because the end was removed from barrel extension.
I don't think it compromises lock up which is very solid, and the Krupp barrels are in excellent shape, but interested in other thoughts. Also method to close the gap/repair it? :)
Quite interesting how close the external features are to a Parker, except for the tang length which is longer, the action shape is dead on a Parker. I will likely use a semi-inletted Parker stock I have on this to restock it!;)

Brian Dudley 01-12-2020 12:36 PM

That does not effect lockup, correct.
You MAY be able to get a parker stock to work given it is semi-inletted. Wont know till you try. I may have a usable stock for it on hand.

Dean Romig 01-12-2020 02:16 PM

[QUOTE=keavin nelson;290178]This is an early Phil Arms Fox. The gap between barrel extension and action slot would appear to be because the end was removed from barrel extension.
I don't think it compromises lock up which is very solid, and the Krupp barrels are in excellent shape, but interested in other thoughts. Also method to close the gap/repair it? :)


Presuming it is a Fox "hinge pin" gun??

The only reason I can think of for that gap that makes any sense to me, is the barrels were replaced with a later set of barrels from a gun with a different frame configuration.

Remedy?.... weld material on the end of it and shape it to fit.




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Eric Eis 01-12-2020 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 290217)

Remedy?.... weld material on the end of it and shape it to fit.




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Yep, have someone who does micro welding fix it up

Dave Noreen 01-12-2020 03:54 PM

I answered on the Fox BBS.

Brian Dudley 01-12-2020 04:03 PM

The barrels on AH fox guns are in no way compatible with the earlier Philly Arms guns.

Dave Noreen 01-12-2020 04:39 PM

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Looking at your pictures, the engraving lines around the border on the rib extension appear complete all the way around, making it look more to me like someone hogged out the slot in the standing breech?!?

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keavin nelson 01-12-2020 05:29 PM

Closing the loop here, yes the slot was cut out. The barrels number to the gun and the extension is at 15/32 which matches other guns of this vintage. So, any know a good micro weld man in Eastern Pa or the try state area?
Thanks for the feedback, on both sites!:)

David Gehman 01-12-2020 06:42 PM

Dewey Vicknair could handle that.
Looks like the top of the extension was beveled back for some unknown reason.
As noted welding is the fix.

Randy G Roberts 01-12-2020 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 290245)
Looking at your pictures, the engraving lines around the border on the rib extension appear complete all the way around, making it look more to me like someone hogged out the slot in the standing breech?!?

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Good eye Dave, thanks.

Phillip Carr 01-13-2020 02:36 AM

I have used Tony South with great success.

Tony South
Micro Precision Welding
51797 County Road 652
Mattawan, Mi 49071
269,668.2760

https://www.microprecisionwelding.com/gun-repair

keavin nelson 01-13-2020 10:30 AM

Thanks Phil

Bill Murphy 01-15-2020 04:44 PM

What would you gain by fixing it? I like it.

Dean Romig 01-15-2020 05:48 PM

Improved aesthetics I would say.





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Richard Flanders 01-15-2020 09:19 PM

Al Edge of Old Dominion Firearms is another microwelder option.

keavin nelson 01-16-2020 04:27 PM

Bill,
as Dean said, only aesthetics. We will see how it looks after the stock needs are addressed. These are more of a curiosity as an early Fox endeavor, and especially a well used field addition, than a highly sought collectible. Although the one the Researcher shared on the Fox site is a beautiful example.


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