1926 production hammer V Grade
 

I don't have photographs, but believed to be unfired, if not 100%, condition, 99% and then some. 12 ga Damascus values.

Fair valuation, not retail, but if for sale from a friend, fair for both of us?

Huh??????

Hammer gun? V grade?? Damascus???

Doesnt add up.

What should it be? Hammer guns and Damascus were common although not typically as late as 1926. I had seen the gun a few years ago and thought it was a V Grade, but that part could be wrong.

Photos?

I don't have any. I have much more experience with antique revolvers, but I am fairly certain this is not a refinish, vivid case colouring, hammers, Damascus barrels. As for Grade, there was limited engraving, which is why I pegged it as a V Grade. Maybe it was a P Grade?

A 1926 vintage hammer gun would certainly be late. It does sound interesting. However, without being able to put eyes on it, I nor anyone else can tell you anything more.

Well, ballpark, what would you value a Parker like this as such? From a retired gunsmith's personal collection. Appears unfired and new--we both agreed on this and not refinished. He's owned it for many decades and it's been salted away, and now could be for sale.

what is the serial number? is that how you dated it?

I cannot recall the serial number but previously I had it and it dated the gun to 1926.

The serial number would very likely help us to determine the grade, original barrel length, original configuration including action type. To discuss the gun further without the serial number would only be based on speculation and guesstimates.





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Yup, start with the serial number.

Okay I will see if I can't get it later today and maybe some photographs as well.

Let's start with a generalized question which could rule in or rule out originality. What is the latest possible date a Parker might have been fitted with Damascus barrels? Second question: When was the last Parker with hammers produced?

If this is truly 1926 production and either of the above preceded this, then it raises a question as to originality.

I have a BHE 16 with Damascus barrels that was made in 1925 so 1926 does not seem unlikely.

Instead, How about... Lets start with serial and pics. All can be verified from that. Instead of speculating.

I agree, serial number at least,

I remember at the Vintagers at least 10 years ago when it was at Pintail Point, a guy was shopping around a Parker hammergun with Vulcan barrels that had been fit to it. It was a nice job. Wish I’d bought it. Austin had a gun like that, a cobbled together shooter. I disremember who got that gun after he passed.

That is the Editors gun I believe.

Yes, the Editors’ Gun is currently in my possession but will soon be sent on to Mike and Susan Koneski. It is indeed a good shooter but is far from “cobbled together”.
Before it was Austin’s it belonged to Robin Lewis. When Robin acquired the gun it already had the Vulcan Steel barrels. The barrels are a very good fit and the job was done properly by changing the entire lug.

The gun had become Austin’s everyday shooter and he literally shot it every time he shot trap, SC, Skeet and other shotgun games and it has begun to ‘loosen’ a bit. It’s not off face but there is a bit of play with the forend off.

Several other alterations and improvements have been done to it as well.
I will write a short article on it so that everything will be documented for posterity and so that everybody can read about it.





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There were no hammer grade V-Grades. You are asking for help valuing a gun that based on your description doesn’t exist.

What's the lowest grade hammer Parker produced?

In the meantime, the owner is in search of the firearm and it should hopefully turn up over the weekend or so. Kind of difficult to negotiate the purchase of a missing object.

if you go to the home page, on the left you will see a link for Parker Grades-

scroll down about 3/4 and you'll see the 0 grade - there are links under the description for top lever picture

also - lower grade Parkers would have twist barrels not damascus -

think candy stripe not curls in the pattern

Oh, now the gun is not only not in the poster's possession, it is missing from the owners possession. I own the last production hammer gun, 172,662, as I recall, made in 1917. The later oddball hammer guns, made from leftover parts, five as I recall, are Twist guns.

No he has it, it's a matter of him locating it. Mail has been delivered there for the last 30 plus years since the owner's wife died and it gets piled up and not thrown out, so it's a matter of what it's behind or hidden. Bit of a hoarding situation there. Now that I look at the grades, it's a Grade 0 probably from what I recall. I forgot that there was no hammer V Grade. VH meant hammerless so I reasoned without researching that V meant with hammer. I stated Damascus, but now it's probably twist. Nearly 100% certain this hammer gun was made in 1926 so ideally it's one of the 5 made up from leftover parts. Odds are it's not.

Are the serial numbers and production dates for the 5 oddball hammer guns made up from leftover parts known?

Yes, they are known serial numbers.

And they are? And years of production. Thanks!

And the serial number of your gun in question is???

Still waiting for this Parker to surface. It's there somewhere but it's not a priority of the owner to locate it.

I think this thread is dead.

Well, what can I say...

I saw the gun several years ago and have much experience with other makes, blued vs reblued, replaced parts, etc. His price was sky high then. Might be more realistic now.

But, when one is an octogenarian and one wakes up noonish and the big concern is "breakfast", then cigars and beer at the VFW or gun club until last call, locating a firearm amongst tons of debris might not be one's first priority.

It WILL surface, not sure when now that the weather is cold.

Congratulations on your laid-back octogenarian lifestyle. You are the envy of many.

When it surfaces you should start a new thread - we’d all like to see hi-resolution pictures of it and see the serial number.






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No, not me! I work 60 to 80 hrs a week and will not be an octegenarian for at least three decades.

This refers to the present owner of the shotgun.

I will start as a new thread...someday.

I am close to octogenarian status, but I got up early this morning so I could meet my octogenarian skeet and five stand partners for some shooting and show and tell. I will be shooting my single trigger DHE 16 with factory Remington one ounce game loads. They are stacked up so high in the loading bunker that I agreed to sell five flats to my near octogenarian buddy, Kevin McCormack. When did we ever have time to go to work?

Rabbit
 

That was a first for our friend, Researcher. Maybe he wants to be included in the "near octogenarian" category.