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Paul D Narlesky 11-26-2019 09:35 PM

Parker reproduction Barrel marking..
 
I have just seen a Parker Reproduction barrel marked, Parker Gun Works / overload proved I have not seen this before and thought this was a Remington era marking or possibly used on the Galazan barrels made for retrofitting to reproduction guns. Can anyone shed some light on this for me Thanks & Best, Paul

Richard Skeuse 11-27-2019 09:45 AM

Parker Gun Works
 
Good Morning, I saw a 410 barrel that had Parker Gun Works stamped on the bottom. It Is NOT a Parker Reproduction Barrel that is stamped like that. I am not sure who made them. Post a photo of the barrel in question. Thanks

Paul D Narlesky 11-27-2019 12:49 PM

Pic here I hope
 
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Brian Dudley 11-27-2019 01:16 PM

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And HERE is the stamp that marked them. And the engineering drawing for the stamp dated 1989.

This is a Remington stamp. Made for when they intended to start making Parkers again in the late 80s.

My guess is that these barrels were made by remington at that time and later fitted to a repro as an extra set of barrels. And serial numbered as such.

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Tom Jay 11-27-2019 01:59 PM

Brian, your knowledge of all things Parker astounds me.

Paul D Narlesky 11-27-2019 02:45 PM

Thanks Brian, It looks like you found the interesting link to the barrels. Someone (Remington) was serious about reproducing the gun to go to that much work. I would think beyond the prototype stages. I remember when Remington was going to build new Parker guns but they stopped pre production because of costs vs revenue as I understand it. I think it is neat that you have the stamp and engineering drawing certainly a collectors set in its own right. I really wish I could have that gun and barrel set in hand to examine. ...Yes, part of a 28 - 410 00 frame set. Best,Paul

Brian Dudley 11-27-2019 02:53 PM

Remington advertised them in the 1988 catalog. And took orders/deposits on them. But they were never filled and they were eventually canceled/refunded. I believe only a couple guns were actually built. Parts were made. Kohler was contracted to make the frames and and other various parts. Others would know more about the actual details of it all. Hell, I was in Elementary school at the time! Don't tell anyone.

I am pretty sure that the gun used for the catalog and advertising was just a refinished original gun done by the custom shop.

This stamp and drawing came from a retiree of Remington


I too would be interested to see those barrels posted about in more detail.

Greg Baehman 11-28-2019 05:08 AM

Paul, are there other stampings elsewhere on this set of barrels besides on the barrel flats and how long are the barrels?

Bill Murphy 11-28-2019 10:25 AM

The catalog Parker gun in 1988 belonged to Ritchie Wingle. It was a Remington era AHE. Kolar Arms did supply the parts for the 1988 gun. Wooden boxes of these parts were stored in the Remington Archives a decade later, unused except for a small number of guns. The parts were made in quantity, but not the barrels or the wood, as far as I know. Reagent Chemical, Tony Galazan, and Merkel all made .410 barrels for the Repro, all different in minor details. I don't know who made Paul's barrels.

Greg Baehman 11-28-2019 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard Skeuse (Post 286326)
Good Morning, I saw a 410 barrel that had Parker Gun Works stamped on the bottom. It Is NOT a Parker Reproduction Barrel that is stamped like that. I am not sure who made them. Post a photo of the barrel in question. Thanks

Here's a DHE 28/.410 set. The .410 bbls. also have the Parker Gun Works proof stamp, the 28-ga. set has the customarily seen Parker Reproduction stampings. This gun is bone charcoal casecolored and is in a case with a non-original trade label. When was the last time you saw a 28-ga. Parker Repro w/28" bbls. factory choked IC/M?

https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/...ntoryid=445118

Eric Eis 11-28-2019 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Baehman (Post 286492)
Here's a DHE 28/.410 set. The .410 bbls. also have the Parker Gun Works proof stamp, the 28-ga. set has the customarily seen Parker Reproduction stampings. This gun is bone charcoal casecolored and is in a case with a non-original trade label. When was the last time you saw a 28-ga. Parker Repro w/28" bbls. factory choked IC/M?

https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/...ntoryid=445118

Someone got a deal on that one.

Greg Baehman 11-28-2019 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Baehman (Post 286492)
Here's a DHE 28/.410 set. The .410 bbls. also have the Parker Gun Works proof stamp, the 28-ga. set has the customarily seen Parker Reproduction stampings. This gun is bone charcoal casecolored and is in a case with a non-original trade label. When was the last time you saw a 28-ga. Parker Repro w/28" bbls. factory choked IC/M?

https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/...ntoryid=445118

I just knew it was too good to be true . . . so I went back to the Morphy link and double-checked the length of the 28-ga. barrels. They are 26" long, not 28".

john niemiera 01-21-2020 09:19 PM

Gentleman,
When I bought my Blaser F-3 Sporting Clays Shotgun from Chris at Clay Target Sports in Princeton , NJ last year, I had a long discussion with him regarding the Parker repros', because I was looking for some parts. He told me that his shop had made the barrels for the last runs of reproductions when production stopped in Japan.

Bill Davis 01-22-2020 04:16 PM

John— Chris never made any Parker repro barrels, but he did warranty work for the Skeuse’s, especially correcting doubling issues on the single trigger examples. I do recall him having a number of Krieghoff made 16 ga. Repro barrel sets. Prior to having his own shop, he was head gunsmith at Krieghoff International in Ottsville, Pa. Those barrels are long gone and he has no other Parker parts.

Bill Murphy 08-17-2023 04:44 PM

Greg, the Morphy ad described 28" .410 barrels, not 28 gauge.

Dean Romig 08-17-2023 07:59 PM

Art Wheaton had two of these prototype Parker reintroductions and donated both of them to the NRA Museum in Fairfax. They were both on display there if anyone is interested, though I don’t know if they’re still on display.


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Originally Posted by Brian Dudley (Post 286378)
Remington advertised them in the 1988 catalog. And took orders/deposits on them. But they were never filled and they were eventually canceled/refunded. I believe only a couple guns were actually built. Parts were made. Kohler was contracted to make the frames and and other various parts. Others would know more about the actual details of it all. Hell, I was in Elementary school at the time! Don't tell anyone.

I am pretty sure that the gun used for the catalog and advertising was just a refinished original gun done by the custom shop.

This stamp and drawing came from a retiree of Remington


I too would be interested to see those barrels posted about in more detail.


Greg Baehman 08-17-2023 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 393619)
Greg, the Morphy ad described 28" .410 barrels, not 28 gauge.

Yes, I know that Bill and that’s why I corrected myself in post #12 to this thread above.

Bill Murphy 08-18-2023 12:53 AM

The parts for the 1988 reintroductions were in wooden boxes in the Remington Archives. I took pictures of them in 1998 when the PGCA Research Committee was at the "Arms" to copy the Parker records. I think our photos were posted on this site a few years ago. I don't know how to find those photos but someone may repost them. I have prints that I had made from my camera. Don Mainland from Kolar had the expertise to make the barrels, but, apparently, someone at Remington volunteered to take on the barrel project. Except for the prototypes, the barrels never got made. I never saw the Art Wheaton prototypes, but the raffle gun was shown at Pintail Point at the Vintagers. I wonder who owns it now? As I previously posted, the catalog pictures were of Ritchie Wingle's AHE 20 gauge. At that time, a prototype had not been completed.

Dean Romig 08-18-2023 08:26 AM

I have pictures of the Parker Reintroduction prototypes from the NRA museum display and the highly engraved one we saw at Pintail Point. I’ll post those pics Saturday night if I remember to.






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