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Dean Romig 08-24-2019 10:48 PM

Unknown Upland Hunter
 
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Does anyone know who this man is? The picture was taken late 40's - early 50's

Purported to have hunted with Burt Spiller.


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ED J, MORGAN 08-26-2019 06:44 AM

Looks like Jack O'connor

Dean Romig 08-26-2019 07:00 AM

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Hmmm... Close but I don’t think so...


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James L. Martin 08-26-2019 09:47 AM

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It sure does look like Mr.270

CraigThompson 08-26-2019 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 279987)
Hmmm... Close but I don’t think so...


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That's not the best picture for comparison . That was from one of his last two British Columbia Stone Sheep hunts either in 1971 or 1973 about 5 years before he met his maker .

allen newell 08-26-2019 01:59 PM

My vote is on O'Connor

Jay Gardner 08-26-2019 02:52 PM

Never saw a photo of JO’C with a mustache. I have no idea who the mystery upland hunter is, but I’m pretty sure it is not JO’C. Also, the upland hunter appears
To be considerably older in the photo than the photos of JO’C, which were taken in the 70’s. I’d bet the upland hunted had passed to the great grouse covert in the sky well before the photos of O’C were taken.

Mills Morrison 08-26-2019 03:55 PM

Not Jack O'Connor but not sure who else it might be

John Davis 08-26-2019 04:53 PM

Don't know who he is but he's wearing my shooting vest.

Mills Morrison 08-26-2019 04:57 PM

All right Dean, we give up. What's the answer?

Dean Romig 08-26-2019 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mills Morrison (Post 280024)
All right Dean, we give up. What's the answer?



I don’t know...... That’s why I’m asking you guys.




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Jay Gardner 08-26-2019 05:52 PM

Jack O’Connor was born in 1902 so he would have been 48 if the photo was taken in 1950. The mystery hunter appears to be significantly older than 48.

Distinguished looking gentleman, for sure.

Dean Romig 08-26-2019 06:00 PM

IMO the mystery hunter looks to be pushing 70 - if using myself as a comparison....





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King Brown 08-26-2019 06:18 PM

Reminds me of Hollywood actor who played gangster roles. Edward G. Robinson?

Keith Sirmans 08-26-2019 09:44 PM

Hobart Ames? Nash's Shoulders were a lot wider

allen newell 08-30-2019 05:49 PM

Louis Lipp

Dean Romig 08-30-2019 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by allen newell (Post 280372)
Louis Lipp

Who is Louis Lipp??





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Gary Carmichael Sr 08-31-2019 11:00 AM

Yea, Who is Mr Lipp? I know who it isn't! fatty Arbuckle. Gary

allen newell 08-31-2019 03:17 PM

Fred Bear?

Dean Romig 08-31-2019 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by allen newell (Post 280438)
Fred Bear?


Nooooo......:biglaugh:





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allen newell 08-31-2019 05:28 PM

John Henry Patterson

larry west 09-02-2019 11:55 PM

Ray Holland Field & Stream editor?

Dean Romig 09-03-2019 06:34 AM

That would make sense - do you have a picture of Ray Holland we could compare?





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Dean Romig 09-03-2019 06:42 AM

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Nope, this is Ray Holland...


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Mills Morrison 09-03-2019 11:03 AM

If it were some notable person among our circles, someone would have recognized him by now. It is probably just a random friend of his

Dean Romig 09-03-2019 11:33 AM

Could be a random friend I suppose but Spiller had a lot of distinguished and not so “random” friends and associates.

I’m going to make it my ‘life’s mission’ to discover who he is....

So please, if anyone thinks he knows who this man is, post it here. And pictures supporting your opinion would be good.



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Brian Stucker 09-03-2019 09:44 PM

Dean, shot in the dark here...google 'William Barber Haynes goose and duck shooting' and look at images. You'll see a picture of him holding a some geese. Not sure, but there is a faint similarity. Question is, was this Haynes cat an upland hunter traveling in Spiller's circles. Good luck on your search.

Brian Stucker 09-03-2019 10:05 PM

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I uploaded two pictures from my book.

Ken Hill 09-03-2019 10:28 PM

The guy looks a little like the person on this book cover by Arthur MacDougall Jr.


http://www.outdoorsportinglibrary.co...ed-206x300.jpg

I can't find an image of MacDougall to know if the book cover is a rendering of the author. MacDougall was born in 1896.

Ken

Dean Romig 09-04-2019 06:00 AM

Brian - that’s the closest I’ve seen yet.





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Dean Romig 09-04-2019 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Hill (Post 280713)
The guy looks a little like the person on this book cover by Arthur MacDougall Jr.


http://www.outdoorsportinglibrary.co...ed-206x300.jpg

I can't find an image of MacDougall to know if the book cover is a rendering of the author. MacDougall was born in 1896.

Ken

Burt Spiller was born in 1886 so MacDougall is not a far stretch but we won't know without a verified picture of him.

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Brian Stucker 09-04-2019 01:12 PM

The info. on this man Haynes, is that he was in his eighties when the book was published in 1961.
He also states that he was on the staff of two sportsmans magazines. He was a crazed sports fisherman beginning in 1919 and published his first book on waterfowling in 1926. Says he was known for a time as 'Sailfish Bill' and was hooked on fishing for 30 years. There is no mention of upland hunting, so he might not be your man. Although, Spiller might have been chummy with a fellow outdoorsman and author enough to go grouse hunting a few times. Be interested to know when you nail the identity of the mystery man.

Ken Hill 09-04-2019 01:47 PM

Dean,

There is picture from the late 40s in the link below. It is on page 48. I just don't know. I could not copy just the one page and put up the picture. He was reverend out of Maine.

Ken
https://digitalmaine.com/cgi/viewcon...correspondence

Ken Hill 09-04-2019 02:06 PM

Here's the picture

http://parkerguns.org/forums/albums/...?dl=1567620185

Ken

Dean Romig 09-04-2019 03:01 PM

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Oh Horsefeathers!!! That didn't work...


Anyway - I copy/saved it and was able to enlarge it but couldn't reproduce the enlarged version here.
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Garth Gustafson 09-04-2019 04:13 PM

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Everett St John (1881-1966) Mass. grouse hunter/conservationist might have a passing resemblance to your guy. From Frank Woolner’s “Grouse and Grouse Hunting”, pg 66.

Russell E. Cleary 09-05-2019 01:13 AM

Ken and Dean:

Spiller did write about a parson who he befriended at a Boy Scout jamboree. And the following Spring they fished the Rangeley Lakes, Maine region together, e. g., Quimby Pond. The parson’s ministry was near enough to the area they fished, that Spiller remained local for an extra day just to attend the parson’s Sunday church service. Spiller did not identify his friend by name, but wrote of this in the chapter “Fisherman’s Luck”, in his posthumously published FISHIN’ AROUND.

It may, however, be a too much of a stretch to postulate a connection between Spiller’s “parson” friend and the Reverend Mr. MacDougall, whose ministry, being in Bingham, Maine is more associated with the fishing areas of the Kennebec River drainage. It is a region that does have a MacDougall Pond (is that connected with the Reverend MacDougall, Sr. or Jr.?) and an Enchanted Pond (which the book cover illustrated may be associated with).

Bill Murphy 09-05-2019 07:29 AM

I have not read any of "Mak's" works, but I read the entire Maine Authors file. It is quite entertaining.

Russell E. Cleary 09-05-2019 08:19 AM

I now see that according to MapQuest it is only 65 miles from Rangeley proper to Bingham, taking Route 4 Eastward and then historic Route 201 North alongside the Kennebec.

So, fishing either area would be feasible for the Rev. MacDougall and Burt Spiller. And this would include the day Spiller delivered his “parson” friend at midnight to his home after a day of fishing, and in time for the minister to deliver the Sunday sermon that Spiller stuck around for one more day to hear.

I see at least a two-part problem: 1) What was the identity of the “parson”; and is he MacDougall, the answer of which, if ever found, would be an objective fact; and,

2) is there a convincing likeness between the photo Dean has to work with and the one of the Rev. MacDougall, which is subjective.

Dean Romig 09-05-2019 03:19 PM

I paged through "Partridge Shortnin'" by Grampa Grouse (aka Gorham Cross of Wellesley Hills Ma.) because he, "Tap" Tapply and Burt hunted together often and maybe I'll find a picture in there. He lists a bunch o' names of guys they hunted with over the years.





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