AH Fox SPE 30" Skeet Gun
 

Picked up a SPE 12ga for a song. Interesting gun. Straight grip, beavertail, single selective trigger, original Jostam pad.
I believe about 175 SP(E)'s were made in 12ga. So a gun not normally encountered. The stock and trigger guard have been properly redone, the bluing on the action and barrels appears original with almost no wear. I'm not a fan of straight grip, beavertail and single trigger but the "package" looks really great and is much better looking than a Model 21 Winchester in my opinion. It's really too bad Savage couldn't make a go of it in the marketplace.

and it looks just as good or better in person

but the moral of the story is to keep hunting - there are still treasures to be found by the diligent seacher

Tony could build you one of those, no problem.

Nice find Craig. And most anything is better looking than a 21.
The only thing uglier than a win 21 is a win 24.

Ive seen people say the Ithaca NID was the ugliest American made sxs , I was thinking they must have never seen a Winchester 21 .

Mr.Brian I would say the only thing uglier than a 21 is a o/u haha.

Hey!! We had two Model 21 Skeet Guns with the "Sunday Morning Joy Boys" squad at the Spokane Gun Club today. Pretty nice guns!!

My 16-gauge --

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Ithaca NIDs aren't all that bad either, 12-gauge No. 4E Skeet Gun --

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I know alot of people do love the 21s , I just prefer earlier sxs's ive always thought that somewhere after the 1930s or perhaps 40s that sxs's started to become less shapely and more boxy . Like alot of people love the Stevens 311 and I never thought that was a good looking gun . Everyone has their preferences , Ive seen people say Parkers are too complicated and not as good as a Purdey... Which I thought was kind of hilarious because Ive seen a Purdey fail on a quail hunt before . I had the picture on my Facebook account but I think it was removed by Facebook .

Likewise I think the Ruger Gold Label was a good looking sxs but theres people who think round body doubles are ugly . I still stand by o/u's not being attractive , to me its sacrificing having class to have a maybe a little more practicality . :rotf:

I enjoy all kinds of shotguns. I even use those pieces of "farm machinery" Winchester Model 12/42s, Remington 31s & Remington Sportsman.

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Those old humpbacks are kind of special down here . I remember hearing stories of the old guys using them back in the 70s for quail and squirrel. Especially the sweet 16s . My friends grandad had one and he always got a little teary eyed when he would talk about hunting with his in years gone by . His son also had a sweet 16 and a Remington model 11 .

I'm not a Model 21 fancier as such , but we had a 21 16 gauge skeet gun in the shop a few years ago and I tried my best to buy it off the customer . That gun felt really nice in my hands !

As to NID's I've got an NID Grade 2 10 Super that I like just fine and I have all intentions of getting an Ithaca NID 10 magnum (preferably Grade 2 to match the other).

As to O/U I see NOTHING wrong with the old Browning Belgium made Superposed guns and happen to have a good sized covey of them at the moment in all gauges .

I also see nothing wrong with Remington Model 32's , Krieghoff K-32's K-80's and K-20's .

And it goes without saying the Boss Woodward and Purdey O/U's were in a class all their own .

Nothing wrong with liking what a person likes just be easy about the way one words it .

I own and shoot most of the guns mentioned (except the Boss) and don't think any of them are ugly. Even my hardware store Foxes and Stevens guns have a certain charm to them. A Model 21 frame has more shape and character than a Churchill, a Holland and Holland boxlock, an 1894 Remington and many other guns of impeccable lineage.

There is currently a grade 2 NID 10 ga for sale but its not a magnum , there was a grade 2 or grade 3 NID magnum for sale a few days ago . I may end up with a NID field 10 magnum if I cant find a Parkers in that price range .

Theres currently quite a few 1894s on the market , they have a very streamline look to them compared to other doubles . I wondered if thats something Remington intended or just a result of the design . I like the Parker clones that Stevens made which I find humorous in a way given that Parker was still making guns when Stevens made their look a likes .

do not sell the NID 2 7/8 10 short

its a solid, effective gun and handles very well

Oh I know , ive owned two hammer guns that seen a bit of the RST 10 ga 2 7/8 shells . Theres a few I am currently looking at , I have a list of guns . Couple of 8 gauges at the top but some short 10 gauges as well . Theres a New Baker short 10 ga I was looking at in nice condition thats probably had the wood refinished at some point . Weird looking gun it is a hammer gun but looks like a box lock as it doesnt have the side plates .

The only Ithaca ive owned was a 37 featherweight in 16 ga I bought for 150$
That thing kicked worse than the 10 ga 3.5" guns ive owned .