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MARK KIRCHER 07-29-2019 11:11 AM

Another Widgeon lands in Montezuma
 
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A short time ago I acquired #159075 the 1st of the 8 Widgeon Duck Club guns. It was assigned to J.N. Young. The PGCA letter I commissioned was the first to be done on this gun. I suspect the gun never left the Visalia, California area for its entire life as it resurfaced not far from there before making its way to me.

The gun is not without concerns. It has literally been “rode hard and put away wet”. The barrels have pitting both inside and out (measured twice and deemed safe). The original wood is lost. The straight grip restock is not of high quality – American walnut lacking drop points and coarse checkering patterns - a beavertail forend was created. The barrel reblue is not pretty. The good news is the metal is in decent condition (pics 1&2) save some blemishes. The screws are mostly unmolested and or salvageable. It’s all there. It’s still a Widgeon Duck Club gun! It is not near the condition of the J.A. Hannah (8th of 8) gun but I am proud to have it.

Moving forward I will have some decisions to make - as I am one to accept (even appreciate) more battle scars than some, I may not do much to it at all. The wood is my primary concern as the LOP is a bit short and it should have a splinter forend. I would really like to find some Parker 1 frame straight grip wood to fit this gun. I know it is unlikely but I will post and ad under “Wanted to buy” and hope to get lucky.

I will hunt the gun at Vanderbilt this fall. I suspect with low pressure Bismuth as it may not be a great idea to run the hotter Kent Matrix through this one. Hopefully I will report back soon with ducks in the pictures. Our season starts in mid October this year. This should prove to be quite useful on early teal, widgeon, and gadwall.

Also – The barrels and forend from #163962 – The J.A. Hannah WDC gun fit on #159075 perfectly. (pic 3)

Randy G Roberts 07-29-2019 11:33 AM

Nice find and congrats on that one Mark. Given the amount of wear/use you described the metal and screws are in amazing condition. Best of luck with it.

Tom Flanigan 07-29-2019 11:40 AM

Great find of a historical gun. You might want to consider a restock. That gun warrents the cost, in my opinion.

Dean Romig 07-29-2019 12:22 PM

Mark - Congratulations!

Will you also "Engrave shield J.N.Y." ?

Best of luck finding a stock and forend.





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MARK KIRCHER 07-29-2019 12:33 PM

Thanks Dean -

I hope to get lucky. If not I may restock.

Shield in current stock may be the original but is worn considerably.

I will be working with Brian on this project. We will pursue it to best we can!

I agree the gun deserves it.

Reggie Bishop 07-29-2019 12:36 PM

Another great duck gun Mark! I let a nice 16 gauge get away from me.......

Mills Morrison 07-29-2019 12:38 PM

Very cool find! Can't wait to hear more as the project progresses

MARK KIRCHER 07-29-2019 12:39 PM

Thanks Reggie
I am bringing that 16 to Mikes this weekend! Rest assured that gun will be loved and well taken care of!

Dave Noreen 07-29-2019 12:56 PM

Great find. Certainly worth of a "correct" restock by one of our present day masters. How many of the Widgeon Duck Club guns are accounted for?

MARK KIRCHER 07-29-2019 05:44 PM

Dave
I believe this gun makes 5 of the 8 for which PGCA letters have been created.

charlie cleveland 07-29-2019 09:56 PM

nice find...hope you get to kill many ducks with this gun and report back to us....is this a 3 inch chambered gun....charlie

Dean Romig 07-29-2019 11:24 PM

Parker 20's with 2 7/8" chambers were intended for the three-inch shell of the day.





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Mills Morrison 07-30-2019 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MARK KIRCHER (Post 278221)
Dave
I believe this gun makes 5 of the 8 for which PGCA letters have been created.

It sounds like this one was previously unknown. Very cool

Reggie Bishop 12-06-2019 04:46 PM

Well it has been about 5 months, how about an update on this little Parker? Have you decided what you are going to do with it (other than shoot mallards)?

MARK KIRCHER 12-07-2019 05:35 AM

Reggie
I don't have anything significant to report. I shot the gun a few times this summer. I did not hunt it yet.
After the hunting season I will get with Brian. Updates to follow.

Craig Larter 12-07-2019 08:11 PM

There is no doubt in my mind Mark will own more than 2 of the 8 eventually. He has great nose for Parkers.

Mills Morrison 12-07-2019 10:16 PM

Maybe the next one will be a B grade

MARK KIRCHER 02-20-2020 08:07 AM

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Update -
OK - after much evaluation, consultation, and deliberation I have made the move. I met with Brain again yesterday and turned the J.N.YOUNG #159075 gun over to him for the restock.
He had a fine selection of wood and together zeroed in on a 60+ year old walnut piece that most closely resembled the character of the J. A. HANNAH #163962 gun (2nd pic). Many more ornate pieces were available, but I am confident we made the best choice for this gun.
The missing engraving and shield will be brought back - The metal will remain in its current condition as some original color is present and much of the engraving is still sharp.
I already look forward to the 2021 duck season. I expect Mr. Young will be smiling down, as His DHE 20/32" gets back into the marsh and underneath some feathers :)
More to follow.........

Reggie Bishop 02-20-2020 08:13 AM

I applaud your decision to move forward! Can't wait to see the finished results as I know Brian will do a heck of a job!

Dean Romig 02-20-2020 08:14 AM

“Honey and Smoke”.... very nice choice Mark.





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Randy G Roberts 02-20-2020 08:42 AM

That's gonna be real nice. I agree with your selection of wood for this one, perfect !

Dave Noreen 02-20-2020 10:23 AM

Nice selection. I'm sure Brian will do the old gun proud.

Steve Cambria 02-20-2020 10:36 AM

SWEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTT...…..

Long live "The Eighth Wonder" baby...…..(that was a great day!!)

Mills Morrison 02-20-2020 11:12 AM

Very exciting! Can't wait to see how this project progresses to the final product.

Stan Hillis 02-20-2020 09:40 PM

Well done, Mark. It should be a beauty when next it sees the duck blinds.

SRH

Mike Koneski 02-21-2020 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MARK KIRCHER (Post 278211)
Thanks Dean -

I hope to get lucky. If not I may restock.

Shield in current stock may be the original but is worn considerably.

I will be working with Brian on this project. We will pursue it to best we can!

I agree the gun deserves it.

Sounds like a great Parker Pages article!!

keavin nelson 02-21-2020 12:16 PM

Not only will it be a beauty, it will be made to fit you Mark! Can't wait to see it.

Brian Dudley 02-21-2020 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by keavin nelson (Post 294098)
Not only will it be a beauty, it will be made to fit you Mark! Can't wait to see it.


The gun will be restocked to the Letter as it originally was. It just happens that those dims also work well for Mark to shoot.

Reggie Bishop 10-14-2020 03:47 PM

How about an update on this Widgeon gun?

MARK KIRCHER 10-15-2020 07:56 AM

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Sorry Reggie but I do not have a detailed report. I know he is working on it. He has been very busy.
Meanwhile.....We just returned from the NYstate northern zone duck hunting opener. I shot my 32" GH straight grip 20 bore choked F/L (thats Full/Laser beam). I shot well on teal and wood ducks - too much choke however for the woodcock.
Craig and I are off to explore another NY marsh today. Our beloved Vanderbilt Marsh is dry from the northeast drought. We are busy with finding other options. More soon!

MARK KIRCHER 11-12-2020 08:44 AM

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Things are "shaping up" for the J.N. Young gun - Thanks Brian!
Wont be long now!

Mills Morrison 11-19-2020 01:14 PM

Mark, Are you going for the complete collection of Widgeon Duck Club Parkers? If so, good luck.

MARK KIRCHER 11-19-2020 03:23 PM

Mills
I think that is unattainable.
But I am working towards it !
If I had the opportunity I would certainly acquire more.

MARK KIRCHER 12-17-2020 08:56 AM

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For those following along -
Brian has found and mounted a correct silvers pad and oval
Begun shaping - Pictured next to the Hannah widgeon Gun - :)

Brian Dudley 12-17-2020 09:04 AM

Not a matter of finding one. It was a matter of making one. The pad base here is one piece. Not a spur glued on.

I may have some exciting developments on this front next year.

Stan Hillis 12-17-2020 09:25 AM

I'm really enjoying the progress reports on this gun. I'm a big fan of long barreled smallbores, too.

Brian, what is the make of that green vise? I don't recall ever seeing one like it.

SRH

Brian Dudley 12-17-2020 09:55 AM

It is a pattern-makers vise. I use it every day for so many different things. Not just stock work. I have two of them actually. Both jaws are hardwood, padded with rubber and they both swivel independent of each other. So any shape can be securely held in it.
It makes me wonder why anyone uses anything else for stock making.

MARK KIRCHER 03-16-2021 07:05 AM

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I am starting to get those Christmas morning jitters.......Brian sent me the latest progress pics yesterday. I could not be more pleased. I hope to be able to show it off at the Southern (if i make it) or Hausman's.....Won't be long now!

Dean Romig 03-16-2021 07:27 AM

Very noce Mark!

Great work Brian!

It looks like old French walnut, like it came with the gun.





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Randy G Roberts 03-16-2021 08:06 AM

Very nice indeed. Good selection of wood. Brian does a good job of keeping folks posted on his progress. Hope you can make the Southern with this one in hand Mark.


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