Ithaca NID 410 Grade 1, nice find, I think?
 

Ithaca NID 410 Grade 1, nice find, I think ?
I been told only 64 Grade 1’s were ever made ?
Circa 1926, still all original. It does have a center bead and has been on there for a long time. It’s very aged. Not sure if it original or not ?
May be a collector gun ? All original, no sign of any restoration.
I like the Grade 1 engraving better than the 2 or 3, any comments?
Reminds me a little of the LC Ideal Grade engraving ?
Standard double trigger extractor gun. Choke 4&4 26” tubes, very nice trigger pulls, I’d say 3-1/2 & 4.
Called Ithaca and the said there are no more records available.
Anyone know where to find any records on them besides manufacturing date ?
Who in the country is and expert on the Ithaca NID’s?
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers JoeB

Very nice looking gun, and I agree about the engraving. I assume you have Snyder's book. He's the best authority I know of for Ithaca double shotguns.

Brian at firetower doubles. Great guy.

The Buffalo Bill Museum in Cody, WY I believe has all of the known Ithaca records. Walt sent them what he had.





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The records are not available yet.

It’s high time they were. The BB Museum has had the records for over three years according to Walt.

The records should have been sent to Bob Beach.



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Bob Beach did a superb job at G&H as their in house historian. He told me late
last year he was retiring. That’s a nice Grade 1 NID 410 indicator gun. It’s, more then likely, a pre-1930 gun. I collected small bore NID’s for many years and this one, from the limited views, appears to be excellent and original.

Walt Snyder posts on the doublegun forum and might be able to provide you with a little more info on your NID.

Either Walt Snyder or Brian Hunt of Fire Tower Doubles as Reggie suggested. Both are very nice gentlemen and they are very approachable. If it were me I would start with Brian, I only say that as Walt is trying to enjoy what they have deemed the Golden Years and he has turned the records over to Cody as I believe Dean alluded to. Really nice gun BTW.

Really nice gun...i picked up an S grade 28 bore at the Southern in similar condition. Enjoy!

Sweet!! Would look nice next to my No. 1 28-gauge.

Walter posts mostly on Shotgunworld.com in the Ithaca section. Most likely to get a response there --

https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/vie...af1c257eca2422

Mark, an S grade 28, as in Sousa grade?

No, I wish!! On flues...S was “special grade” or the lowest grade produced. Really handy and light little gun, in about 90% condition.

A 28-gauge gun with the S in the grade stamp location on the left watertable would be a Flues Model.

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Ithaca Gun Co. used an S for the grade stamp for receivers used for both the Field Grade and the No. 1 Special, (they were the same) from the introduction of the Flues until after WW-I when the No. 1 Special was gone. Perhaps the S stood for Steel barrels which they both had. Around 1920 they began replacing it with a F for Field Grade, but I've recorded Field Grade guns marked with the S into 1922 serial numbers. From before the Flues Model the Field Grade Ithacas had a round knob half-pistol grip stock and Smokeless Powder Steel marked barrels, while the No. 1 Special had a capped pistol grip and Cockerill Steel barrels. Between the July and December 1919 Ithaca Gun Co. catalogs, well after the No. 1 Special was no longer offered, the Field Grade got a capped pistol grip.

I have the same gun but mine has been modified.

With Ithacas I generally only play in the NID field, but when this 30-inch barrel 28-gauge crossed my path I couldn't resist, and then had it Turnbullized to boot!!

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We've wandered off the original topic of this wonderful NID No. 1 .410-bore, so here is the No. 1 page from a 1926 Ithaca Gun Co. catalog --

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Sorry, but the big Ithaca catalogs are a bit too large for my flat-panel scanner.

I've shot a pair of birds with this "cutie pie" of a double. What a nice gun!
I can't speak for Joe but so far I'm 100%. :whistle: