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Craig Larter 07-01-2019 05:42 PM

Your choice-what would you do?
 
So you have some gun money burning a hole in your wallet Your urning for a Parker 20 gauge. Two become available at the same time priced about the same gun 1 a near mint
VHE 20ga 30 " o frame and gun 2 a DHE 20ga 30" o frame with little CC and only 80% blue but all original untouched, excellent mechanical condition and just honest wear.
Which one for you and why??
My heart says take the DHE, my wallet says take the V HE. What say you? :corn:

Rick Losey 07-01-2019 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Larter (Post 276646)
Two become available at the same time priced about the same :corn:

a DHE or a VHE same condition / same price?

are you sure your wallet heard you right?

Daryl Corona 07-01-2019 06:12 PM

Priced the same? I'd buy them both then move the one that I can't shoot very well on to a good friend. But... a DHE priced the same as a VHE, well I'd have to lean towards the DHE if only for the resale value. Are they same barrel lengths?

Craig Larter 07-01-2019 06:23 PM

Sorry guys somehow when I made the post it was truncated. Anyhow I edited it. Sorry about the confusion.

Harry Collins 07-01-2019 06:34 PM

A near mint VHE might make for a tough decision to take out and shoot. A DHE with good honest wear would be my choice.

Bill Davis 07-01-2019 06:47 PM

Dig deeper! Sell something you no longer need. Buy them both. 30 inch 20’s are special!

Rick Losey 07-01-2019 06:53 PM

if its only one coming home and you plan to hunt it- the DHE

Stephen Hodges 07-01-2019 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl Corona (Post 276649)
Priced the same? I'd buy them both then move the one that I can't shoot very well on to a good friend. But... a DHE priced the same as a VHE, well I'd have to lean towards the DHE if only for the resale value. Are they same barrel lengths?

DHE

Randy G Roberts 07-01-2019 07:43 PM

Condition, condition, condition. Buy the VHE. There will be another slightly tired D grade come along soon enough. When was the last time you saw a mint VHE 20 with 30" barrels?

Jim DiSpagno 07-01-2019 07:52 PM

DHE. My choice

Michael Moffa 07-01-2019 08:15 PM

A shooter versus a safe queen. Lets make a totally inappropriate comparison. Wife 1 is able to gut, skin and section a deer, bait there own hook, balance a check book, bring you a beer, is happy living within your means and has curves in most of the right places. Wife 2 could be a Victoria Secret model who needs the latest haute couture and expects to be waited on, makes reservations instead of dinner and thinks a night out clubbing with her friends and your credit card is her divine right. Yeah I'd go with the shooter over the looker which I already did if you have seen Pretty Wife at one of the events.

Mark Ray 07-01-2019 10:36 PM

DHE all the way (i already have a vh, and a gh!!,,,)

Bill Jolliff 07-02-2019 12:38 AM

Tough decision but considering how much you like to shoot your doubles, I think the DHE would see more action in the field and in the marsh.

Yeah, tough decision Craig.

Bill Holcombe 07-02-2019 12:40 AM

Neither take the money a 20 would cost and get yourself a Bernard CHE 12 or even a BHE 12

Josh Loewensteiner 07-02-2019 07:25 AM

On another thread it was mentioned that true “collectors” generally don’t participate in the online chatter. I think this thread is a perfect case in point. At an auction the mint 30” VHE 20ga always brings more than the well worn DHE 20 but here it would seem (Incorrectly) based on this thread and the responses herein that the greater demand is for the DHE. Condition wins every time - the buyers of the minty collector guns are simply more private and don’t often post publicly.

MARK KIRCHER 07-02-2019 07:28 AM

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DHE - even if less than 80% :whistle:

Randy G Roberts 07-02-2019 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh Loewensteiner (Post 276682)
On another thread it was mentioned that true “collectors” generally don’t participate in the online chatter. I think this thread is a perfect case in point. At an auction the mint 30” VHE 20ga always brings more than the well worn DHE 20 but here it would seem (Incorrectly) based on this thread and the responses herein that the greater demand is for the DHE. Condition wins every time - the buyers of the minty collector guns are simply more private and don’t often post publicly.

So far it's just me and you on the VHE. Funny this seems like such a no brainer "to me" yet most folks appear to think opposite. :corn::corn:

Bill Holcombe 07-02-2019 08:04 AM

I disagree with the idea of "incorrectly" we all buy guns for different reasons. It isn't all tied down to ROI. "True collectors" is a matter of opinion. I think you are just seeing the people on this forum prefer a gun they can hunt and use compared to a safe queen. I fail to see how that makes them incorrect or less than true collectors. The guns mean more to them than an investment, which I think makes them more of a collector than someone than is simply wanting to get a maximized return. Which sounds more like an investor than a collector to me anyway.

But that's simply my opinion.

Reggie Bishop 07-02-2019 08:24 AM

Are they both pistol grip? I would buy the straight grip one. :)

William Davis 07-02-2019 08:42 AM

Same think happened to me with 20 G Trojans . Both unmolested 28 inch one used very little other well worn hunters gun.

Bought both, fact is I use the well worn gun much more than the high condition gun. Condition excepted, it was a choice between equals. VHE vs DHE both sound mechanically ? DHE would be my choice. I have no concern about future value and always prefer something I will use and enjoy. D engraving is a pleasure to look at.

Willam

Randy G Roberts 07-02-2019 08:43 AM

My fondness of the VHE has nothing to do with ROI, investments, or collecting. I do not consider myself a true collector. For me the gun that I will keep in a safe and not use does not exist. I shoot all of my guns. I would rather own and use a minty VH as compared to a tired DH any day but that's just me. If I were buying it to put it in a safe I wouldn't buy it, but again that's just me. Now if we were talking of a minty VH and a tired AH, well just give me a minute on that one please :)

John Allen 07-02-2019 09:38 AM

Craig,You implied that the VHE was less money.I would buy it and shoot it.You are not going to hurt the value by shooting the gun as long as you use reasonable care.Enjoy it and when the time comes for you or your heirs to sell it,a higher condition gun will sell faster and for relatively more money.

Bill Murphy 07-02-2019 10:45 AM

I shot my very near mint VHE skeet configured 20, modified and full, the other day, and got many comments on its condition from my fellow shooters. When shooting graded guns in field worn condition, not so much. I will always recommend buying both, if they are great guns.

davidboyles 07-02-2019 12:27 PM

Tough chice
 
Wouldn't trade my DHE 30" 20 ga wth the Gold PG cap engraved in 1927 "To Luther H Baldwin from the BLue Wing Gun Club" for All the Rice in China! Or A just left the factory 30" 20 ga. VHE!!

Craig Budgeon 07-02-2019 04:08 PM

Finding a near mint VHE 20 is a difficult task. Buying a well worn DHE 20 only requires money and time. With the conditions set forth, I want the VHE 20.

Garry L Gordon 07-02-2019 04:54 PM

Boy, you've started some good threads lately. Obviously on this one you did not give us information enough to advise you (not that we really had any useful advice anyway). You probably already know what you want when you buy another gun. The responses demonstrate that there is indeed a wide variety of folks who cherish, buy and use Parkers (notice I did not say collectors). Both guns sound like possible gems, but not for the same reasons.

So, buy the V grade and send me the information on the D grade. We'll both be happy then. :)

Craig Larter 07-02-2019 05:17 PM

It's not a choice I need to make I was just posing a what if question to see what others would do. I'm always interested in how others think. Thanks all for such interesting perspective.

Bill Jolliff 07-02-2019 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Larter (Post 276720)
It's not a choice I need to make I was just posing a what if question to see what others would do. I'm always interested in how others think. Thanks all for such interesting perspective.

Aw shucks!

Was hoping to see another nice one from you.

Daryl Corona 07-02-2019 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Larter (Post 276720)
It's not a choice I need to make I was just posing a what if question to see what others would do. I'm always interested in how others think. Thanks all for such interesting perspective.

Why you ole' pot stirrer.:)

Randy G Roberts 07-02-2019 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon (Post 276718)

So, buy the V grade and send me the information on the D grade. We'll both be happy then. :)

I have a back-up plan for you. If Garry's suggestion does not fit into your scheme of things then buy the D grade and send me the information on the V grade. Then I can go shoot with Murphy in style. Just sayin :)

Rich Anderson 07-03-2019 09:22 AM

I would buy the VHE due to condition but I would shoot it and added that I have and use a high condition DHE 30 inch vent rib gun and a GH Damascus 20 with 30 inch tubes the VHE would fit nicely with the other two.

Daniel G Rainey 07-03-2019 05:13 PM

The DHE. I prefer a nice looking woman not a plan Jane.

Mike Koneski 07-07-2019 04:06 PM

I agree with Daryl, buy both and keep the one you shoot best.

Tom Jay 07-11-2019 01:49 PM

I had the money and it burned a big hole in my pocket. A few weeks ago I purchased a safe queen Winchester M21 16 gauge 28” IC/F straight grip BTF single trigger. Sorry not a Parker this time.

steve irving 07-14-2019 02:47 PM

Craig, grab an oil rag, go to the gun cabinet and take out the CE20 and wipe it down, the feeling will pass...Steve

allen newell 07-14-2019 03:54 PM

DHE


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