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Rick Riddell 04-02-2019 06:22 AM

DH vs GH
 
So it is written the DH is the lowest grade CUSTOM gun Parker offered, what would make the DH a custom made gun compared to the GH? Both have a standard template that both models follow, or was the DH custom tailored to the purchaser and the GH was just standard fittings? Any clarification would be great!

Bruce Day 04-02-2019 06:32 AM

“So it is written.....”

Where and by whom ?


Both could be ordered with various customer desired features. Both were made as stocked guns.

Rick Riddell 04-02-2019 07:03 AM

This forum: http://www.parkerguns.org/pages/grades.html I understand you could request modifications or option for graded guns. I was curious why the DH would be considered custom, but not the GH.

John Davis 04-02-2019 07:07 AM

I think what you are referring to is that the DH was considered the lowest of the high grade guns. The GH was the highest of the low grade guns. The difference between what was considered high grade and low grade generally had to do with the type of walnut, the engraving, the checkering and the barrel steel.

Dean Romig 04-02-2019 07:35 AM

I think we know that Parker Brothers would fill a customer's requests to "customize" his gun of about any grade as long as it was in good taste, within reason and for a price.

The factory options that could be applied to a gun (except the Trojan) were many and the grade of the gun didn't matter.





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Rick Riddell 04-02-2019 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Davis (Post 270560)
I think what you are referring to is that the DH was considered the lowest of the high grade guns. The GH was the highest of the low grade guns. The difference between what was considered high grade and low grade generally had to do with the type of walnut, the engraving, the checkering and the barrel steel.

That I can see! Thank you for the clarification!

Brian Dudley 04-02-2019 08:17 AM

That statement about the D grade was in reference to “custom shop” type features. Like Drop points and skeleton buttplate. These features, especially the ssbp are labor intensive treatments that were applied to all DH grade guns. None of the other american guns of a similar (grade 3) level offered such features.

Robin Lewis 04-02-2019 08:29 AM

The line you are asking about is poorly worded (I wrote it -- sorry).

It should read

The Grade 3 was introduced in 1875 and was very popular at a cost of $100 (a 100 Dollar grade). The DH is the lowest grade parker to be considered one of their high grade shotguns.

Bruce Day 04-02-2019 08:57 AM

Robin Lewis knows Parkers and with the clarification is fully accurate.

Garry L Gordon 04-02-2019 01:29 PM

Page 280 of TPS: "Parker guns of grade 3 and upward are generally considered to be custom-made, high grade guns." It goes on to discuss the "deluxe" features. It also notes that grade 3 guns were "seldom made for inventory."

Having re-read this, I think the words like "generally" and "seldom" give enough wiggle room to the idea.

Obviously one could customize a grade 2 gun as many letters attest.

Rich Anderson 04-02-2019 02:57 PM

I have a GHE 16 that has BTF (this is a Damascuss barreled gun) with the reinforced lug SST and a SSBP. Obviously at the request of the customer.

Dean Romig 04-02-2019 05:03 PM

But that’s one of the available options that any grade above tha Trojan could be fitted with.





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Rich Anderson 04-02-2019 06:39 PM

I have never seen a grade two with a SSBP have you? This work including the ejectors was all done after the gun was originally shipped as a std GH. Parker also made it a straight grip.

Dean Romig 04-02-2019 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Anderson (Post 270620)
I have never seen a grade two with a SSBP have you?

Yes I have. Granted, they were both Remington era guns and Remington occasionally wandered away from the norm.

This work including the ejectors was all done after the gun was originally shipped as a std GH. Parker also made it a straight grip.

That much 'after the sale' work is extremely unusual but if it letters that way, who can argue? I have a GH 16 that went back to Meriden to be fitted with ejectors but that's it.

Again, Parker Bros. would do nearly anything the customer wanted but I wonder if it was cost effective to have all those options installed after the fact...?





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Garry L Gordon 04-02-2019 08:25 PM

I wonder when a G with added features becomes the same (or nearly the same) cost as a D? It’s odd how buyers could opt into or out of features that sometimes seem to not be very cost effective. Those research letters create mysteries as often as they solve them. The customer is (almost) always right...unless he wanted a gun too light to be safe (for example).


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