Collector Trojan
 

I am not in the market for what is described as a "Museum Quality Trojan" but maybe a member needs to fine tune their collection. Hopefully the link works. If not the ID # to it on GI is there.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...n_id=101180123

Chuck is a great guy to deal with.

WOW!!!

Oh LOOK - It has a mullered border on the rear line...





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Me thinks Chuck is over stating it when he says "None Finer". Somewhere out there the late Ed Muderlak's bench mark, new in the box, Trojan 227251 must still exist.

I agree, but I know of a new in box 16 ga Skeet gun that overshadowed Ed's gun ! Ed agreed ! That was one of the hardest guns to let go of, but it's in good hands

That's one I would like to see !

Maybe he is meaning none finer currently available....:corn:

Very true !

There is another one I saw listed as collector quality and original that very obviously is not....

As it should. For a Trojan Grade.


A spectacular example.

I think that gun was at one time sold to a member here from Colorado along with a mint VHE 20ga skeet gun. In turn that person was selling both guns. I bought the skeet gun. Where that Trojan is now is anyone's guess.

Correct... I was responding to an earlier post today where someone was quoted as saying “you can always tell a restock on a Trojan if the rear line is mullered”... or words to that effect.





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It was in the Parker Pages. At our annual meeting at the Vintagers at Pintail Point. it came in second place behind Jimmy Hall's A1 16 gauge, and there were many (over 20) beautiful guns at that meeting.

Ed's Trojan had a bit of a problem with the bore dimensions versus the "original tag". I digested the observed contradiction, but did not share it with Ed because we were going though a bit of a snit at the time. It was a nice gun, but not at $10,000. The buyer's premium, as I recall, escalated the price a bit above the $10,000 figure.

I did not see that comment. That would apply to other grades.


Imagine how many Trojans that guy passed up assuming they were all restocked.

Bill, Ed was rather proud of the Trojan and the skeet gun. In his book Shooting Flying he pictured the skeet gun and said it brought $14K:eek: That was probably 15 yeas ago. The seller was very disappointed in it's resale as he bought them for investments.

I had seen the skeet gun, years before Ed described it, at a gun show in Richmond, Virginia. It was a field used browned out gun with no character or collector value beyond the unusual splinter forend. I believe the gun was priced at about $2000 when I first saw it. I have to admit, I was intrigued at the splinter forend on an obviously original skeet gun, the first I had ever seen.

It was in the thread about my new trojan....

My Goodness... I was just rummaging around in my gun/library/reloading room and came across a box of glossy photos that I had forgotten I had. I think either Ed Muderlak or possibly Austin Hogan had given them to me well over a dozen years ago... They are many of the photos EDM had used to illustrate his book Parker Guns the "Old Reliable" and included were pictures of his 12 gauge unfired Trojan ( 227251 ) with tags and original box... sorry, no pics of the box.

Someday in the near future I'll post pics of the borrowed Trojan I hunted with when I was 13-15 in 1961-64... though it's nowhere near as nice as EDM's, but it is the same in barrel length and chokes.


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I heard of that one from a mutual friend of yours and mine .

Another Trojan
 

Since this thread was started way back when I did acquire a rather nice Trojan IMO. I may have posted pics previously, who knows. Not perfect but it's not lacking a lot.

Very very nice! It's always nice to have a bench mark gun and in 16ga!