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Mills Morrison 09-10-2018 10:40 AM

Anyone seen this before?
 
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Another head scratcher for me. Just acquired this GH. In pretty good shape with a few issues, one of which is this oval shield or something embedded in the side of the stock. My first thought when seeing it was it was hiding a pin, but no pin or evidence of anything on the opposite side. Appears someone just put this in to an otherwise good stock.

Has anyone ever seen something like this? Maybe a name plate, but I don't see any engraving. Any idea what it might be?

Randy G Roberts 09-10-2018 11:08 AM

Is there a shield/plate on the opposite panel ?

Mills Morrison 09-10-2018 11:12 AM

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There is not. There is nothing on the opposite side

Randy G Roberts 09-10-2018 11:35 AM

As you alluded to earlier any alterations in that area make a person suspect of a stock repair. Take the stock off and see what's inside the head. If there are
signs of a repair that is most likely the answer. I suppose the owner could have damaged/gouged the side panel and this was an attempt to hide that. If there are no signs of repairs anywhere just call it custom and charge a little extra when and if you sell it.:)

Mills Morrison 09-10-2018 11:39 AM

I am not curious enough to remove the stock. Externally, I cannot see any damage. My best guess is a name plate, but that is an odd place for one.

Randy G Roberts 09-10-2018 11:43 AM

You would think that if the owner went to that much trouble installing a name plate they would have followed through with the name or initials.

George Stanton 09-10-2018 11:45 AM

I have a gh with a wooden plug on one cheek panel. When I removed the stock it was of course cracked, and a large brass screw had been run into that panel. I left it since the plug was well done and repaired the stock internally. So maybe it is just hiding a wood screw.

Mills Morrison 09-10-2018 11:46 AM

Could be, but wouldn't there be a screw or something on the opposite side of the stock?

The initials could have worn off some time ago

Eric Eis 09-10-2018 12:05 PM

Mills, remove the stock, it's probably a pin but you won't know until you can look at it.

Richard Flanders 09-10-2018 12:13 PM

A screw wouldn't have to go all the way through. I'd bet that's what is in there.

Jay Oliver 09-10-2018 12:14 PM

Mills, I am glad you got that one. I liked that it had 32"barrels(if I am remembering correctly) and a straight stock. I asked the seller about the stock and he didn't know too much. I thought that that was a good deal on a gun you could leave as is or really fix up depending how much you like it. Nice find!

Rick Losey 09-10-2018 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mills Morrison (Post 253038)
Could be, but wouldn't there be a screw or something on the opposite side of the stock?

The initials could have worn off some time ago

maybe not

if the repairer thought he got enough bite with the screw into the opposite wood without breaking through the other panel

OR - there is some anchor piece embedded inside -

- then there would only be one side to cover

never underestimate the ingenuity of the handymen and local smiths that worked back in the day of repairing things not tossing them out

Mills Morrison 09-10-2018 12:36 PM

Must be a pin then. Thanks for the opinions

Mills Morrison 09-10-2018 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Oliver (Post 253042)
Mills, I am glad you got that one. I liked that it had 32"barrels(if I am remembering correctly) and a straight stock. I asked the seller about the stock and he didn't know too much. I thought that that was a good deal on a gun you could leave as is or really fix up depending how much you like it. Nice find!

Yep, that is the one. It is a nice gun, despite a few issues

Jerry Harlow 09-10-2018 09:32 PM

I can see one or both of your sons' names engraved there.

Mark Ray 09-10-2018 11:29 PM

I have seen “prize” guns with medallions like that, commemorating a shoot, or retirement or what not.

Robert Bork 09-11-2018 12:32 AM

I'll bet there is more than 1 screw, possibly 3 and then a nice medallion, how clever..

Todd Poer 09-11-2018 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mills Morrison (Post 253035)
I am not curious enough to remove the stock. Externally, I cannot see any damage. My best guess is a name plate, but that is an odd place for one.

It is odd but not unheard of to see an engraving plate in that location since it is a nice flat surface that would be mostly likely observable to a right handed shooter. It is hard to know the history about some of these old guns. Maybe it was engraved on other side and plate is flipped? The only way to really know is break it down and like you don't think I want to go messing with it that much. At least if stick gun in a rack with similar guns, you will know which one is yours. It could even be as simple as that from a previous owner. I think Mark might right though. Maybe it was a gift with intention of engraving it but they just never got around to it. I think it makes it a unique quality. BTW I sometimes like having a nickname for some of the guns that I am fond of. "Plate Gun" or "Patch"comes to mind. Personally I like Patch referring to places I like to take a gun to hunt with, but obviously it could have a double meaning.

The pictures don't reveal any damage and obviously you have handled it and looked at very closely. If it was a repair it must be doing a heck of a job so I would be inclined as well to leave it alone. What is the saying "Never look a gifted horse in the mouth" I think applies here.

Jean Swanson 09-11-2018 07:43 AM

Mills

If you do not want to remove the stock yourself, bring the gun to the annual meeting. I am sure there will be an able body there that has the experience to remove a stock and also has a set of gun screw drivers----jus a thought.

See you next week
Best to you & your family
Allan

Mills Morrison 09-11-2018 08:12 AM

Allan, Thank you. I am now convinced it must be a pin. Look forward to seeing you next week!

Bill Murphy 09-11-2018 09:39 AM

Mills, will a magnet stick to it? I would suspect only steel (magnetic) or silver (not magnetic).

Mills Morrison 09-11-2018 09:50 AM

A metal detector also crossed my mind, but there is so much metal we know is there, I don't think it would tell us much.

todd allen 09-11-2018 10:39 PM

Have your initials engraved in it, and call it done.


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