DHE 20 Late Gun
 

Anyone looking for a late, DHE 20?

https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...n_id=101091455

And that is what the Parker Repros were modeled after.

A nice looking gun, but, to me, it is heavy for a 20 gauge.

Ken

Good point Brian, at a glance you would think you were looking at a repro.

How late is it?

241991 is probably about a 1940 gun.





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I'd love to hear opinions about that price.

I mean, it is a beautiful gun, and it's a 20. But it's a DHE.

Thoughts on a fair value price...?

- NDG

If I were looking for a Parker like that I would fully expect to have to pay that kind of price.

For a late Remington era Parker DHE 20 gauge in high original condition, that gun has it ALL.






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I like the wood and the color of the finish on it.

I thought the price was on point. What are the chances of finding another one and are you willing to wait??

If I was interested in 20s, which the price of said guns is partly why I am not, I would consider the price to be about what I would expect.

So it seems the general opinion is the price is in range.

Yikes, I was afraid that might be the case. It is a rare and beautiful gun. My problem is there are more "set money aside for when I see one of THOSE" guns than I have money set aside for.

- NDG

Save your money and buy a repro at a fraction of the cost.

Doesn't that seem pretty heavy? 7lbs 3oz?

After your done shooting the repro you'll lose very little compared to shooting a pristine 1940 gun!

Ken

No thanks Gary. Much of the appeal of these guns to me is that they were made (at least the 19th century ones) in water-wheel driven, whale-oil and candle lit factories.

CNC guns might be more precise, but don't have the same soul to me. :nono:

The 1940 era gun in the OP is a bute, but 50 years late compared to most of the guys in my safe. To hold them, like a stitch in time, is pure magic.


- NDG

To my eye it’s the perfect Parker 20. Only negative it’s too nice to shoot.

William

Spectacular example of a small bore D-grade but way too nice to take afield. Price doesn’t seem unreasonable given the configuration and condition.

JDG

Makes me curious what my "Doctor's Gun" would be worth.

This gun is now absent from GI Listings. Congratulations to the new owner!!
Bob Jurewicz

This gun and the super nice 16 DH that recently sold here on the forum proves that high condition Parkers still bring a good price. The market for high condition Parkers seems relatively strong.

Not to hijack the thread, but I’ve been saying it for a while - the guns that are selling well are all original and in nice higher condition. People who feel the market is weak are trying to sell beaters and field guns at 2006 prices.

Yes. Good guns will still sell at strong prices. Condition really is everything and always will be.

I agree with you Brian about Condition as critical element and factor. In real estate parlance that is like saying Location, Location, Location. However we all know markets forces can be a little more complex and tricky to comprehend sometimes with many vagaries. Here is an anomaly on condition that is not reflective on suggested price. BTw I know referencing anything maybe on Kevins site is probably a true outlier.

https://www.kevinsguns.com/product-p/10014.htm

It's a shame the pictures are down. i wanted to take another peek. Anyone save the pics?

The gun had me thinking and I saved one (1).
Bob Jurewiczz

Early in my "collecting career" I was told by major collectors that had been doing it for years that the factors affecting VALUE were:
BRAND
ORIGINALLITY
CONDITION
RARITY
SUPPLY & DEMAND
PRICE

Pretty much common sense when it comes to most any collectibles! :)

Another key ingredient in shotgun values is always gauge.





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That was a fantastic Parker and worth every $$$.
David

Bill Mullins hit us with an interesting list of criteria. In today's world, there are otherwise nice guns for sale that couldn't be sold at any price. The utility of a worn out Parker VH starts at about the price of an average Mossburg. We are learning that when we put our worn out guns on the gun show table or on a gun website. Learn to live with your low grade white guns with short wood rather than selling them.

The question then becomes if you follow that logic to its conclusion, what constitutes worn out.

For me, I apply the same logic to buying a parker that I apply when I buy cattle at the ranch or when educating ranchers: The variable with the largest influence on wether you make money of that heifer or steer is how much you paid for it initially. You can feed one up and take great care of it, but if you spend too much initially its hard to generate profit.

I have found in gun buying and parker buying the same rule holds true.

Its a lot easier for me to buy a decent shooter grade such as the GH I purchased from Brian and if I decide to flip it to someone nearby for a bit of a profit then it ever would to try to turn a profit on a gun running 15k or more. Its surprisingly easy to find people who have always dreamed of owning a parker at an affordable price.

Is a “white gun” defined as one with all the finish worn off?





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I would think “silver” to be a better term for that. To me, “white” would me new and unfinished.

How many pristine examples such as the one discussed in this thread exist? Is this the 1 out of 100 or 1000 ... used 20 gauge DHE Parkers?

After you purchase it, can you minimize its use to keep it in the top 1% condition of all other 20 gauge DHE Parkers?

Ken

I discovered that it is very difficult to commit to maintaining a top 1% (or less) gun in that kind of pristine condition. It is a responsibility of dedication without question. And if we dont take on that responsibility, future generations will be without those benchmark examples to refer to for what they looked like when they left the factory.

And now I find myself with yet another.....






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I couldn't do it. Feel fortunate to have rounded up a few to make memories with people I hold dear at shoots and dogs I love afield. You have to take your hat off to somebody that has looked after that gun for a longtime.

I take it your talking about your Fox?

Yup.....





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I've hunted with a really cherry VH28 straight grip OO frame for 40+ years and it looks in the same condition as when I bought it. I hunt at least 10 times a year with the last PHE 20 made (according to PP) and it's in 80% or better condition. I would not hesitate to take that gun (the DHE 20) on my next trip to wherever.

Dean;
Take that Fox and shoot the shot out of it. They can handle it.

I want to hear about Dean's Fox.