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Dave Noreen 05-28-2018 10:56 AM

What is Up With This?
 
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/view...f=107&t=470138

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Frank Cronin 05-28-2018 11:36 AM

Cool gun. Never seen the Damascus pattern on this one like on other Parker grades.

Rick Losey 05-28-2018 11:57 AM

i would like to see a close up of any marks on the underside of the barrels

maybe this "maker" fitted new damascus barrels to a Parker frame

wayne goerres 05-28-2018 04:26 PM

Maybe not a barrel address but requested with the new owners name and add on the barrel. A letter may be in order.

edgarspencer 05-28-2018 05:05 PM

I can't seem to get a close-up view, but it may be an 'added' inscription atop the Parker rib.

Dave Suponski 05-28-2018 05:43 PM

Bernard variation?

Brian Dudley 05-28-2018 05:50 PM

The photo are terrible quality. But it does look very similar to Bernard barrels.

The rib extension fit looks iffy. And the forend lug is a lot fatter than normally seen of Parkers. My guess would be the barrels were replacements made from new, custom.

Dean Romig 05-28-2018 07:42 PM

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Mr Weston was obviously not really the "maker" but more probably the custom 'assembler' of non-original (to that particular Parker) barrels and possibly other parts as well.

Definitely Bernard - possibly "No. 16 Bernard I"

Robert Brooks 05-28-2018 09:00 PM

What caused that circle in center of rib in front of dolls head?I have a Parker that has that mark? Thanks Bobby

Brian Dudley 05-28-2018 09:01 PM

That is the screw that helps retain the extension.

Dean Romig 05-28-2018 09:27 PM

And it is usually only observed on barrels that have been refinished.





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Robert Brooks 05-29-2018 08:57 AM

Thanks for the info. Bobby

Bill Murphy 05-29-2018 09:21 AM

Can we get better pictures and a serial number? Thanks.

Robert Brooks 05-29-2018 03:08 PM

Bill if you are asking me I do not take pictures but the Parker is a 20 ga GHE # 2365XX.Bobby

Bill Murphy 05-29-2018 03:53 PM

Hmmm. 1900 GHE, serial number 236,5xx.

Dean Romig 05-29-2018 04:33 PM

Parker Bros. never produced a gun with letters in the serial number.

Without the real serial number we can't verify how and with what features it was manufactured.






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edgarspencer 05-29-2018 04:53 PM

Who's on First?
We've got two separate conversations going on here. The OP still hasn't given a SN of the Cleveland Gun, Bobby's talking about a 236,XXX GHE. Bill's trying to confuse us with 1900 on a 1928 gun, and Dean, well, you know Dean, He's just being silly.

Brett Hoop 05-29-2018 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 245078)
Who's on First?
We've got two separate conversations going on here. The OP still hasn't given a SN of the Cleveland Gun, Bobby's talking about a 236,XXX GHE. Bill's trying to confuse us with 1900 on a 1928 gun, and Dean, well, you know Dean, He's just being silly.

Abbott

Thank you. I thought it was just me.:eek:

Dean Romig 05-29-2018 05:34 PM

Alright Lou, listen to this... A Parker with serial number range 236,5-- would have a 1934 date of manufacture.





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Michael Meeks 05-29-2018 06:00 PM

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SN 95095 according to OP. I don't see it in serialization book. There's a gap btwn 95021 and 95097.

edgarspencer 05-29-2018 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 245077)
Parker Bros. never produced a gun with letters in the serial number.

Without the real serial number we can't verify how and with what features it was manufactured.
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 245082)
Alright Lou, listen to this... A Parker with serial number range 236,5-- would have a 1934 date of manufacture.
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Parker did not use hyphens in their serial numbers either.

Dean Romig 05-29-2018 09:46 PM

The word 'range' qualifies the dash.

(Dash - def. a mark of punctuation used to indicate a missing letter or number.)

'Numbers in this case, and when two or more dashes are used together without spaces or other letters, numbers, or marks of punctuation, indicate a range.






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Bill Murphy 05-30-2018 06:44 AM

I have no idea how Mr. Brooks got a late GHE into this conversation. The Bernard gun has a "2" on the forend lug.

Robert Brooks 05-30-2018 09:11 AM

I ask about the circle in middle of top rib and then stated that I had a GHE Parker with the same mark as pictured on the beautiful Damascus bbls pictured.Sorry Bobby

Dean Romig 05-30-2018 12:27 PM

No reason to be sorry Robert. A bit of a variation from the topic but that happens all the time on this forum. There are so many questions on such a huge variety of topics that people need to ask a question when it presents itself.

Now, back on topic - a "2" stamped on the forend lug would indicate barrel set No. 2, is there a corresponding 2 on the forend iron?






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Rich Anderson 05-30-2018 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 245077)
Parker Bros. never produced a gun with letters in the serial number.







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Ok now I'm confused (not a big leap:)) by your statement. I have guns that there is a letter usually a N prior to the serial number. Did you mean something like 123N456?
Could just the rib have been replaced for some reason?

Dean Romig 05-30-2018 04:35 PM

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Wow - you are confused....

Parker never produced a gun with letters in the serial number, i.e. 2365XX, the two X's being the letters I was referring to.

On the guns that you have with a N preceding the serial number, the N is not a part of the serial but if you look closely it is actually a No. (with the right vertical stroke of the N intersecting or touching the o) meaning "Number" and you will only find that engraved in script on the trigger guard strap on grades 3 and higher.

See example on a Grade 4 hammer gun.



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Rich Anderson 05-30-2018 07:06 PM

I have never noticed the 0 before. I have several guns with the letter N. Never to old to learn something new:). My eyesight is bad, I can't hear worth a damn and my knees are starting to argue with me. Getting old isn't for sissies:nono:

Dean Romig 05-30-2018 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Anderson (Post 245152)
My eyesight is bad, I can't hear worth a damn and my knees are starting to argue with me. Getting old isn't for sissies:nono:


That was my mother's favorite saying... and she was old - but I'm quickly learning how true her words were.






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