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CameronKulbeth 07-07-2009 05:19 PM

Parker 12ga Grade "D"
 
I have come across a new shotgun and was needing some help on what it is and what it might be worth? So here goes:

Parker 12ga. Model D

It’s a 1930’s model D - Parker 12 gauge double barrel shotgun in very good condition with the original blueing on it and original stock. The serial number is 236990. It has steel barrels, not damascus. It is a trap gun and I was told it is a "D" grade. The receiver has a setter engraved on the left, a pointer engraved on the right and a pheasants engraved on the bottom. It has a beaver tail forearm and double ivory beads. It has case hardened blueing on the receiver and blueing on the barrels. The blueing on the barrels is in great shape. It is a single trigger with extractors, not ejectors. I recently saw one like mine at the Cabela's collector gun room priced at $5,000, but really don't know what it might be worth? Someone told me that my configuration is really pretty rare!

This site will not let me upload my pictures correctly so if anyone is intereted in looking at this shotgun please send their email address and i will be more than happy to email all the pictures of the shotgun that I have.

Dean Romig 07-07-2009 05:46 PM

Hello Cameron. What is the length of the barrels?

CameronKulbeth 07-07-2009 05:53 PM

28"

Dean Romig 07-07-2009 06:27 PM

28" is a very unusual length for a trap gun. Most were 32" and far fewer were 30" while I believe 28" would be rare.

CameronKulbeth 07-07-2009 06:33 PM

Where would I find any detailed information on it? Like value? Who owned it? Where it went? How many were made like this? Etc?

CameronKulbeth 07-07-2009 06:44 PM

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/s...h/DSCN1561.jpg

CameronKulbeth 07-07-2009 06:45 PM

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CameronKulbeth 07-07-2009 06:45 PM

[IMG]http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/s...h/DSCN1563.jpg[/IMG]

CameronKulbeth 07-07-2009 06:46 PM

[IMG]http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/s...h/DSCN1564.jpg[/IMG]

CameronKulbeth 07-07-2009 06:46 PM

[IMG]http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/s...h/DSCN1565.jpg[/IMG]

CameronKulbeth 07-07-2009 06:47 PM

[IMG]http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/s...h/DSCN1566.jpg[/IMG]

CameronKulbeth 07-07-2009 06:47 PM

[IMG]http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/s...h/DSCN1567.jpg[/IMG]

CameronKulbeth 07-07-2009 06:47 PM

[IMG]http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/s...h/DSCN1568.jpg[/IMG]

CameronKulbeth 07-07-2009 06:48 PM

[IMG]http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/s...h/DSCN1570.jpg[/IMG]

CameronKulbeth 07-07-2009 06:48 PM

[IMG]http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/s...h/DSCN1571.jpg[/IMG]

CameronKulbeth 07-07-2009 06:48 PM

[IMG]http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/s...h/DSCN1572.jpg[/IMG]

CameronKulbeth 07-07-2009 06:48 PM

[IMG]http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/s...h/DSCN1573.jpg[/IMG]

Destry L. Hoffard 07-07-2009 06:57 PM

I'd say the buttstock has been replaced and the vent rib might not be original, the rib matting doesn't look right. The White Line pad probably isn't original either.

Destry

CameronKulbeth 07-07-2009 07:03 PM

How to check for an original factory rib?

Dean Romig 07-07-2009 07:48 PM

Cameron, the ID & Ser. book shows your gun as a straight grip, 28" with ejectors, single trigger, large forend (BTFE) and vent rib as options. It now sports a pistol grip stock so it is pretty likely that it has been restocked at some point in it's life. Nonetheless, it is a rare (unique) and valuable Parker as, according to the table on page 402 of Vol. 1 of The Parker Story, it is very probably the only "known" 28-inch trap gun of any grade.

Lucky You !! :bowdown:

You can find out more about your wonderful Parker by ordering a PGCA Research Letter at a cost of only $60 for non-members or $40 for members.
You can click on the tab on our Home Page for a printable form requesting a letter. Mailing address is on the form.

Don't let that gun out of your sight. :nono:

George Lander 07-07-2009 07:58 PM

Cameron: Dean is on the money. Except for the buttstock your gun checks out in the "BOOK". You have an extremely rare & valuable Parker, More so than the one at Cabela's. Join PGCA & order your letter for $40.00 today. You may well be surprised by what you find.

Best Regards, George

Dean Romig 07-07-2009 08:02 PM

Now to get down to "brass tacks", on the underside of the barrel lug should be 12 indicating the gauge and closer to the rear of the lug will be the frame size. Your gun should have either the 1 1/2 frame or the 1/2 frame . . . how is yours marked??

Destry L. Hoffard 07-07-2009 08:07 PM

Hmmmm the matting just looks odd, must be the cloudy pics.....

DLH

Dean Romig 07-07-2009 08:11 PM

Destry, I've seen both types of matting on vent ribs - both the wavy-line matting we're all accustomed to seeing as well as the "matte finish" as shown on this one.

Dean Romig 07-07-2009 08:20 PM

Cameron, you say your gun has extractors rather than ejectors but in the second picture showing the breech end of the barrels there is definitely a screw head visible on the doll's head to secure the retainer plate for ejectors . . . and the book says it was produced with ejectors, so . . . ?

Bill Murphy 07-07-2009 09:50 PM

Is there a screw at the north end of your forend? Maybe you could picture that area for us. Is the rib actually just finished with a matted surface or does it have a pattern of swirls machined or pressed into it? The trigger guard seems to be modified for the pistol grip. Is the serial number still engraved into the trigger guard?

Dean Romig 07-08-2009 01:46 PM

Cameron is probably too busy answering PMs offering to buy his gun to reply to our questions :rolleyes:

Bill Murphy 07-08-2009 02:19 PM

Oh, well. So what else is new?

Richard K. Johnson 07-09-2009 05:21 PM

Cameron,

Are you related to Delbert Kulbeth?

Red Johnson

Greg Franklin 07-19-2009 01:00 PM

Nice gun Cameron! Hope you can get the info you need.

eddie gray 07-22-2009 08:01 PM

great gun
eddie

Destry L. Hoffard 07-23-2009 07:30 PM

This guy disappeared quick. *laughs*

DLH

Dean Romig 07-23-2009 10:09 PM

Pretty interesting how he just stopped communicating here.

My guess is that he no longer owns the gun.

Steve Huffman 07-23-2009 10:22 PM

Maybe it was what he had in mind to start with. What better way to sell than show it off.

Richard Flanders 07-23-2009 11:50 PM

Well??? So, fess up whoever has it now !


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