Where have I seen this AH engraving pattern before?
 

I've acquired an AH 16 that was built in 1927. Unfortunately, there are no records for this gun. It has the articulated trigger and gold cap on the round knob grip, but is without ejectors (to my liking), or skeleton butt plate (which I wish it did have...it has a checkered butt). The engraving is well executed but has no game scenes or dogs, etc. -- only tight scroll work. The style of engraving
corresponds to the head engraver (can't recall his name now) from the period.
The gun is built on a #1 frame with 28 inch barrels, weighs 6 lbs. 5 oz., and has high stock dimensions. The chokes are fairly open (just like I would have "ordered"). I wish I could know the history behind the lack of ejectors and checkered butt.

I am positive that I have seen this engraving pattern before, and I'm plodding through my DGJs to see if that is where I saw it. In the absence of records, I'm looking for any scraps of information that might shed some light on this gun.

Has anyone seen this pattern before, and do you recall where?

That is one great gun. 1 frame 16,s seem to fit me best of all.

That's a beauty!!

I believe the chief engraver in that period was Frederick Anschutz.

I have seev that engraving on only a couple of other A's generally when the purchaser specified "no game scenes" or something to that effect.

I think Larry Frey had Wilbur(?) Parker's AHE 20 with similar engraving. Straight grip, 30-inch barrels if I remember correctly.





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I remember that gun, when Steve Barnett had it last year. It was the engraving that made it so memorable. Glad to see it got some wood work before being sold at RIA.

No game scenes on this one. AHE 20

Posting the serial number may lead you to more information.

Harold,

That's a beautiful gun! Do you happen to know the timeframe for it? The engraving style (not just the pattern) looks very similar to mine.

Garry

PS I hope the grouse will be drumming soon in your neck-o-th-woods!

Bill,

It's number 221534. Everything matches, although I've not pulled the stock (nor will I...I'll leave that to Brad B. when I drop it off).

Garry

Dean,

Thanks for the information! I had concluded Anschutz also, as the style is so much like other similar vintage guns I've been able to examine, and the serial number places it during his tenure according to TPS.

I also remember when Steve had that gun, didn't see it on the RIA auction. IIRC there was some corroboration that the checkered but was original as I considered putting a pad on it for a longer LOP but dismissed it. It needed a little TLC and IMHO was a tad pricey for what it was when Steve had it.

Harold isn't that your friend Bill's AHE? It's a great gun but he should take that lace up pad off it when not using the gun.

That is s very nice gun! And I really like that 20 Harold.

Rich, yes that is Bill's little 20 AHE. Rich and Eric have seen that gun before at Rich's cabin in the UP. Spent most of yesterday afternoon with Bill at his father's funeral(101 yrs old).l

Just to follow-up on this gun. I took it to Bachelder's a few days ago, and we examined the stock under the trigger guard. I had thought I might get a skeleton butt made for it if the stock appeared to be a replacement, but the serial number stamping will keep this on hold. It seems clear the stock had been worked on, and not all that good a job was done on it. I'm looking forward to seeing what Parker and his craftsmen can do with the stock. Whatever the provenance of this gun, it will be shot and cared for by its current caretaker for the foreseeable future.