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Jeff Kuss 01-15-2018 11:31 AM

Jump shooting geese
 
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I had the chance to try jump shooting some geese on one of my ditches this past weekend. My 10 ga. dh 32" Damascus gun did the job.

Mills Morrison 01-15-2018 11:44 AM

Very cool!

Reggie Bishop 01-15-2018 11:59 AM

Those are huge birds! They make the big gun look small. Thanks for posting!

Daniel G Rainey 01-15-2018 03:57 PM

Had a change to jump shoot some geese in Kansas in Dec. New to me but lots of fun. Nothing falls like goose !

charlie cleveland 01-15-2018 08:02 PM

looks like you had a good shoot with that 10 ga.have jumped ducks on little creeks but never geesebut i would if they ever light in that little creek....charlie

Destry L. Hoffard 01-22-2018 05:14 PM

Nice

Garry L Gordon 01-22-2018 05:59 PM

Just curious what Bismuth loads you were using...

Jeff Kuss 01-22-2018 06:39 PM

2 7/8" #2s

Todd Poer 01-22-2018 09:21 PM

I have a question for you big bore gun guys. What is the recoil like on those 10 gauge and bigger guns. I have never shot a 10 gauge or bigger gun before. In a 12 gauge pump have shot many 3 inch shells at ducks and even a dozen or so 3.5 inch shells for turkey. Pump gun weighs about 8 pounds and man those 3.5 shells can push you around. I don't mind shooting a 3.5 inch roman candle with 2 ounces of #5 shot at turkeys, that comes at a price though. First 10 shots were back to back trying to pattern the gun and find with a load gave its best pattern. All I can say is that patterning day was punishment and price to pay to get a load I feel comfortable shooting up to 50 yards with a strong ethical kill. Not worried about shot stringing but even at 60 yards that combo twice put 12 pellets on a target in the kill zone.

Average built guy about 6 feet, 190 lbs and know about getting knocked around from sports and growing up on a gentlemen's farm. All I know is that after about 5 shells on those 3.5 inch shells you have to be dang mindful of the flinch as combined effect just rattles the fillings. If those guns kick about the same as my setup then just wondering how big a fellas are you and will be pretty wary about picking any fights with you hombres.

Jeff Kuss 01-22-2018 11:42 PM

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Even at 11 lbs. a 3 1/2" 10 ga. shell will kick your butt!

CraigThompson 01-23-2018 02:51 AM

Only 10 3 1/2 I ever fired has been in semi autos and a BPS . While they weren't light I thought the recoil was less then what I got from a Benelli SBE with 3 1/2" stuff .

Todd Poer 01-23-2018 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CraigThompson (Post 233601)
Only 10 3 1/2 I ever fired has been in semi autos and a BPS . While they weren't light I thought the recoil was less then what I got from a Benelli SBE with 3 1/2" stuff .

Hmm obviously lots of variables to determine felt recoil, gun weight and action of gun being some of those factors. BPS like I shot with and your big bore Parkers are straight on, with little to no recoil reduction. Though supposedly the BPS is back bored which is suppose to help with patterning and maybe some recoil (probably very little on recoil).

Went to web and saw a recoil chart. I think the BPS 12 gauge weighs between 8 and 9 lbs and charts suggest recoil is in the 65 lb to maybe a little greater. I think the 10 gauge with about same load but with it being heavier reduces the recoil between 60 and 65 lbs.

I don't know how much you big bore guys shoot those guns at those geese in and outing but sure hope its cold enough to put on some thick clothes to help pad it some. Even if shooting 3 inch 10 gauge shells that would produce some recoil in the 50's close to 60, just guessing by eyeballing charts. Still that is a whuppin if you shoot more than a handful of times in a short period.

Luckily all I know is that when I take my rig out and draw down on a turkey, most likely all I need is one shot. Btw the 2 two times taken a turkey with that load I don't remember the recoil at all, but I do remember the shots, that big boom in a quiet setting and the net effect.

Garry L Gordon 01-23-2018 11:41 AM

At the risk of stating the obvious, the 2 7/8” shells (like those Jeff was apparently shooting), shot from a 3 frame or larger gun with with long, heavy tubes absorbs a lot of recoil and makes for more pleasant shooting. My GH 10 has very manageable recoil with “proper” loads. My 12 pound Ithaca 3 1/2” still lets me know I’ve shot it...and my arm is longer from a day carrying it.

Jeff Kuss 01-23-2018 12:53 PM

I agree. My Dh is much more manageable than my NID 10. I just couldn't
pass up a gun that is essentially a legal 8 ga!

Todd Poer 01-23-2018 04:12 PM

I guess if your shooting 1.5 ounce loads at 1200 fps in a heavier gun then recoil would be a bit more manageable. Again just guessing but maybe the recoil is reduced into the 40's. Supposedly they say that 20 lbs is most comfortable recoil to handle but plenty of 20 and 16 gauges will shoot in mid 20 lb range up to 30 lbs depending on loads.

Again even if shooting in the 40 lb range it would be significant day to run thru a 25 count box of shells. My guess would be around the 15th shell I would be a bit ornery and obstinate, but that would be me.

Mills Morrison 01-24-2018 04:40 PM

The weight of Parker 10's absorbs the recoil of RST's pretty well. Remember that recoil depends on the shot power to weight of the gun ratio.

Todd Poer 01-24-2018 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mills Morrison (Post 233731)
The weight of Parker 10's absorbs the recoil of RST's pretty well. Remember that recoil depends on the shot power to weight of the gun ratio.

Yep, get that. So, what do you think felt recoil is with a 10 gauge Parker weighing 10 to 11ish pounds shooting an RST 2 7/8 inch shell with 1.5 ounces (guessing) of shot? Does it drop into 30 lbs of felt recoil.

Size of load makes a difference as well. Is it in the 40 to 45 lbs range or is it less. Have shot plenty of 12 gauge 3 inch shells with my pump that weighs between 8 to 9 lbs and that is a healthy stomp to the shoulder, but I only do that duck hunting and when you have some heavy clothes on my guess that load is produces high 40s to somehwere in the 50s of of felt recoil.

Just wondering never shot a 10 gauge.

Mills Morrison 01-24-2018 09:17 PM

I am not that technical but it doesn’t bother me.

Jeff Christie 01-24-2018 09:24 PM

I think RST bismuth 10 gauge loads are 1 1/4 ozs. At any rate, recoil in my 3 frame EH is negligible. I limit my shooting to 40-45 yds. Much beyond that they are coming down alive and I hate that. I also love the sound of 10 pounds of protein hitting the ground. Hard. Nothing quite like it.

Mills Morrison 01-24-2018 09:52 PM

I am with Jeff on that.

CraigThompson 01-24-2018 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Todd Poer (Post 233604)
Hmm obviously lots of variables to determine felt recoil, gun weight and action of gun being some of those factors. BPS like I shot with and your big bore Parkers are straight on, with little to no recoil reduction. Though supposedly the BPS is back bored which is suppose to help with patterning and maybe some recoil (probably very little on recoil).

Went to web and saw a recoil chart. I think the BPS 12 gauge weighs between 8 and 9 lbs and charts suggest recoil is in the 65 lb to maybe a little greater. I think the 10 gauge with about same load but with it being heavier reduces the recoil between 60 and 65 lbs.

I don't know how much you big bore guys shoot those guns at those geese in and outing but sure hope its cold enough to put on some thick clothes to help pad it some. Even if shooting 3 inch 10 gauge shells that would produce some recoil in the 50's close to 60, just guessing by eyeballing charts. Still that is a whuppin if you shoot more than a handful of times in a short period.

Luckily all I know is that when I take my rig out and draw down on a turkey, most likely all I need is one shot. Btw the 2 two times taken a turkey with that load I don't remember the recoil at all, but I do remember the shots, that big boom in a quiet setting and the net effect.

ALL of the 10 gauge 3 1/2" I've shot has been slugs , buckshot and 2 1/4 ounce turkey loads . In the Benelli SBE all I shot was buckshot and 2 ounce turkey loads . Virtually the same loads and that Benelli being a bit lighter it doesn't take much to realize that Benelli thumps MORE !

CraigThompson 01-24-2018 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Christie (Post 233775)
I think RST bismuth 10 gauge loads are 1 1/4 ozs. At any rate, recoil in my 3 frame EH is negligible. I limit my shooting to 40-45 yds. Much beyond that they are coming down alive and I hate that. I also love the sound of 10 p30 grains SR7ounds of protein hitting the ground. Hard. Nothing quite like it.

My most used 2 7/8" 10 load is 30 grains SR7625 , SP-10 wad with a 16 gauge nitro card in the bottom topped with 1 1/4 ounces of shot . I've used that load for skeet , trap and sporting with no ill effects . Now with that being said you DO NOT wanna go out and shoot a couple rounds with a 20 or 16 and then shoot the 10 gauge as it'll wake you the F up . But otherwise it's no big deal .


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