Rolled the dice on a CH..
 

Obviously needs a lot of work..

http://www.gunsinternational.com/gun...n_id=100947595

What do you guys think?

#60068

lots of work, hope barrels are sound

Ron

Boy, that one is worn out. And the pictures very poor. But at that price, unless the barrels are toast, it is not a horrible buy for a Bernard CH. If the barrels are sound, that one woukd be a good candidate for restoration. Would sure make for some striking before and after photos.

What's the deal with the extension rib that seems to be standing proud of the action? Otherwise, I would like to see one of us take this one on.

Can anyone look at #60068 in the book for me? Seller says #60668 but looks like #60068 to me.

I really like the third dog on the floorplate.

It is 60068. At least that is what is on the trigger guard.

60068

c grade 30" berarnd barrels 12ga

Did you get it Kirk? If so, good luck with it

Yes, just need to get a check in the mail.. Just ordered a research letter as well.

As long as barrels are sound it looks to be in good enough shape to be worth restoring if you have the funds for it.

Good buy (I hope) Kirk. I saw that on there and thought the gun had a lot of potential.

Thanks, I hope so too.. If the barrels check out it'll definitely be getting a restoration.

That one can be brought back better than many; it's just a matter of time and money. We're very fortunate that we have a number of good gunsmiths available to us at this time who can work magic on a specimen like this one and make it look pretty much brand new.

Kirk,

Let us know how the gun looks when you get it. Take your time with restoration.

Ken

To my eye it looks like more heavy use than abuse.

Roger that Mills. That gun has seen a LOT of field time. If only guns like that could talk and tell their stories.

Kirk, It looks like you have made an astute purchase to me. Currently, the best features of your CH are those Bernard steel barrels, the gun still retains its skeleton steel buttplate, and it seems to lack the refinements that amateur gunsmiths often add.

I only let about 15 minutes pass between the time I found it and when I emailed the seller to buy.. I've always wanted a Bernard barrel gun and have only ever seen one other that cheap. Even though it needs a lot of work, at least I have it.

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mistake to this thread

Browsing through The Parker Story volume II this afternoon and I see that #60068 shows up on page 600 as one of the 45 C.E.P guns ordered by Charles Eddy Parker.

That's some good solid provenance!

I hope you can find additional provenance on 60068





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The Order Book shows 60068 as being ordered by the E.T. Allen Co. of San Francisco, CA and the order was placed by S.A. Tucker. The order # was 39439. There is no mention of Charles Eddy Parker in the order. There were 68 guns on this order. S/N 60068 plus 5 other guns (2 BH's, 1 DH 8ga., and 1 PH 8ga.) were sent on consignment.

The Stock Book shows this gun with the initials C.E.P. in the spot where the order number should be. S/N 60067 is also a CH with Bernard barrels and it has C.E.P in the order # spot in the Stock Book. This gun, according to the Order Book was ordered by the Gordon Hardware Co. of Seattle, WA. The order also shows it as a consignment gun along with 2 other CH's with Bernard barrels. This order was placed by mail and the order # was 40213.

I don't believe these guns were C.E.P.'s personal guns but he probably approved sending the guns on consignment. Did they have extra nice engraving and stock wood like the guns for exhibitions, who knows!

Whether true or not, The Parker Story says that the 45 guns marked C.E.P and ordered by Charles Eddy Parker may have been used as factory or salesman's samples.. Some remained in stock for years and years.

Thanks for the info!

Pics.

Looks good. How are the barrels?

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Barrels seem fine externally, no pitting or anything in bores, not sure about muzzle.

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Looks really good. The dog on the floor plate is excellent

It doesn’t look too bad. Let us know your plan for the gun.

Ken

Somebody attempted to resolder the ribs and did a poor job of it.
Otherwise, looks good.





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Sure looks a lot better than it did in the sellers ad ! Congrats it looks like a good buy !

Needs some TLC at the muzzle for sure.

Good buy. It may need a little work...or a lot depending on what you want it to be, but I think you did well.

If the barrels check out I’ll get it fully restored, maybe not case color but everything else redone.

Thinking of sending the barrels to Bachelder since he’s local, just to get them checked out to see if they are restorable. Seems to me they should be, but I’m no expert.

So, I got some pretty bad news from Brad today.. Doesn't look like the barrels are safe.. Really, really disappointing. Apparently they've been honed at least once already and the right tube in his opinion is just a bit too thin.

A couple options.

1. Restore barrels cosmetically and fit with Briley tubes.

2. Fit 2 fame 10 gauge Bernard barrels.

3. Fit 2 frame 12 gauge steel barrels.

4. Cut my losses. No more gambling.

Thoughts?